Zimmerman found not guilty

Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:21 pm

I never said that if that is what really happened we will never know, how do we know who threw the first punch? Only one can testify, by GZ own admission he never identified himself as a neighborhood watch or even a concerned citizen, I never said it's ever right to throw a first punch but just maybe GZ showed his gun from the start then TM might have been in fear of his life & we will never know except maybe those of you that seem to be all knowing. ;) Never have I said the verdict was incorrect now have I, only that we may never know. All of a sudden GZ is afraid of being followed & crying that he will always have to be looking over his shoulder, sound familiar?
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:24 pm

I heard about this sermon. It is as good as it was made out to be.

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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:27 pm

samhill wrote:All of a sudden GZ is afraid of being followed & crying that he will always have to be looking over his shoulder, sound familiar?


Yes, but God assured Cain that no one would lay hands upon him (and unlike Zimmerman, what he did was undeniably intentional and premeditated cold blooded murder).
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:32 pm

You may be right since the way it came down if you are a believer then there are two that know the absolute truth & since you seen to be in communication with him, the one besides GZ that is. :roll:
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: Rwalker On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:00 pm

samhill wrote:I never said that if that is what really happened we will never know, how do we know who threw the first punch? Only one can testify, by GZ own admission he never identified himself as a neighborhood watch or even a concerned citizen, I never said it's ever right to throw a first punch but just maybe GZ showed his gun from the start then TM might have been in fear of his life & we will never know except maybe those of you that seem to be all knowing. ;) Never have I said the verdict was incorrect now have I, only that we may never know. All of a sudden GZ is afraid of being followed & crying that he will always have to be looking over his shoulder, sound familiar?


You don't need to identify yourself as anyone. If I decided to follow someone around, I don't need to let them know, "Hey, I think you might be up to no good so I am just going to follow you around!" Nope, I can just walk behind them casually, watching what they are up to. Again, no one is hurt by the act of following.

I don't know what happened, but I don't recall Martin having injuries that would signify that he was struck with a punch? Zimmerman had injuries that were consistent with his story. He got punched in the nose (his nose was broken), he got his head slammed off the sidewalk (he had an injury to the back of his head). Seems pretty cut and dry. The eye witness saw Martin straddling Zimmerman "MMA" style and pounding him. I have a hard time believing ANYONE with half a brain would see an armed citizen and decided to engage them in hand to hand combat. The odds aren't exactly in your favor unless you are Steven Segal. Even teenage thugs aren't that gangster.

Do I think Zimmerman should have gotten out of his car and followed him? No. I wouldn't have. I would have called the cops, left a description, and went on my way. Martin was going to find his own trouble based on his drug use, love of "fighting", and wanting to be a thug. Prison or death is pretty common when those are your career goals. However; I do give Zimmerman all the credit in the world for the restraint he used. He resorted to force just before being knocked unconscious and he shot Martin once.

The new black panthers have put a million dollar bounty on his head. You would be concerned as well. I would counter that and sue the *censored* out of them. They cant operated their gang if they are broke.
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:18 pm

The DOJ would come to their defence and Al and Jesse would hold big fundraisers wirh athletes and musicians and actors kicking in. If they lost, Obama would pay it from taxpayers dollars by executive order.

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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:32 pm

KLook wrote:The DOJ would come to their defence and Al and Jesse would hold big fundraisers wirh athletes and musicians and actors kicking in. If they lost, Obama would pay it from taxpayers dollars by executive order.

Kevin



Sadly so true. :mad:
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:11 pm

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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:21 pm

Wow, some things I did not know. Makes it even more of a lynching of Zimmerman.
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:24 pm

Sam, your take on this?
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:26 pm

RW, you & most others still can't comprehend what it is that I said, a persons past or even possible future make no difference here. It doesn't matter if it was Whitey Bolger that was walking that night, GZ had no right to follow & confront. I got some questions for you & friends where & for how long did each involved take MMA training, does GZ have a history of trouble with the law, & remember GZ had a father that could use influence, the bottom line as I see it is that there is only one side, that's all I ever said. GZ had said he knew nothing of the law but had passed all the law credits he took including coverage of the Stand Your Ground. I've been bloodied more than that in fights I won, I only pulled my gun once in a fight & smacked the guy in the head with it (end of fight) he & I are still friends to this day. I've seen plenty of people shot & killed & none changed their position once hit in the heart (could be just dumb luck). Like I say it is of no importance of what someone did in the past or MAY do in the future it's what they did that night & there is only one side, both may be at fault but only GZ could have avoided it from the start, both had the same right to stand their ground under Florida Law, only one had a gun.
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:38 pm

It's cruel to torture logic like that.
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:58 pm

samhill wrote:RW, you & most others still can't comprehend what it is that I said, a persons past or even possible future make no difference here. It doesn't matter if it was Whitey Bolger that was walking that night, GZ had no right to follow & confront. I got some questions for you & friends where & for how long did each involved take MMA training, does GZ have a history of trouble with the law, & remember GZ had a father that could use influence, the bottom line as I see it is that there is only one side, that's all I ever said. GZ had said he knew nothing of the law but had passed all the law credits he took including coverage of the Stand Your Ground. I've been bloodied more than that in fights I won, I only pulled my gun once in a fight & smacked the guy in the head with it (end of fight) he & I are still friends to this day. I've seen plenty of people shot & killed & none changed their position once hit in the heart (could be just dumb luck). Like I say it is of no importance of what someone did in the past or MAY do in the future it's what they did that night & there is only one side, both may be at fault but only GZ could have avoided it from the start, both had the same right to stand their ground under Florida Law, only one had a gun.


The news just came out that Zimmerman just saved someone's life who was in a car wreck. Hmmmm.
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:12 pm

Gee ws, I guess that makes GZ an angel of mercy, saving (or helping) people get out of a car turned on it's side & none of the family had any injuries. Maybe they will get broken bones & scrapes on their heads, those things can happen as we all well know. :lol:
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Re: Zimmerman found not guilty

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:16 pm

Obama Voted to Strengthen Illinois’s Stand Your Ground Law in 2004


President Obama spent part of his surprise appearance at last Friday’s White House press briefing urging that the Stand Your Ground laws that exist in 31 states be reexamined. But only nine years ago, in the Illinois state senate, he co-sponsored a bill that strengthened his state’s 1961 Stand Your Ground law.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/35 ... -john-fund
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