Electric Bill Relief......

Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:37 pm

Well its not what you think......we are experiencing the 6th or 7th outage (I've lost count) in the last 3 weeks or so which means we can't have used as many KWH as normal so our bill will have to be less than normal for this time of year!!

I guess I need to upgrade the generator to an electric start model. The spousal unit complains when I send her out to pull start the 12hp engine in the 95* temps :roll:

On an electrically related note we just got a smart meter installed last week so I have that goin' for me.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:32 am

titleist1 wrote: On an electrically related note we just got a smart meter installed last week so I have that goin' for me.


We just have a tiem of day meter and I save quite a few dollars. Takes a little more planning on when to do certain things, like laundry and running the dishwasher. Im am gonna hate to see our next electric bill, 3 window ac units crankin for about 7 or 8 days straight now and a dehumidifier in the basement running 24hrs a day. I would save having a central unit with an electric heat pump. :idea:
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 am

titleist1, Just be careful that you keep the generator in precise condition.There is not too much worse than pulling on a balky engine that won't start in high heat and humidity conditions.You would be sure to get more power than you need albeit from a different source. Mike
stovepipemike
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KAA-2


Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:25 am

Yep - drain that carb EVERY time it gets put away, and it'll start every time when you need it. ;)
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:03 am

SMITTY wrote:Yep - drain that carb EVERY time it gets put away, and it'll start every time when you need it. ;)


If you can find it, ethanol-free gas and some Stabil also goes a long way.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:51 am

SMITTY wrote:Yep - drain that carb EVERY time it gets put away, and it'll start every time when you need it. ;)


i am guilty.... I don't drain the carb each time, but i do run it often, especially in the winter once a week at least just to make sure I can still start it in the cold weather. It has been running more than I want it to the last three weeks or so! :roll: I bought it in 1999 and it has paid for itself many times over the years. It is a Homelite 5500W unit.

I use the marine stabil additive (also claims to treat the ethanol) in the gas each time i fill it. I don't measure very well, probably putting in almost twice as much as recommended. Could that cause problems down the road....doesn't seem to as of yet?

I am in the market for a 10k size with electric start. I came across a 15K on craigslist that they bought for Sandy, but never had to use it. I was thinking about it, the price was right but I didn't like the 16gal / 10 hour fuel usage the spec claims. The 10K ones I looked at say about 1gal / hour fuel usage which is more to my liking.

I should just get an lp fueled one and put it by the house where I could run the fuel line from our 1000 gal tank and also wire it directly to the house panel with the transfer switch. My current set up is in the garage 125' from the house wired into that panel. I like having it that distance from the house because of the noise of the generator. Running an lp line to the garage wouldn't be fun with everything else in the yard in that direction.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:25 pm

If you are going with a larger gen with electric start, go with a propane fired unit. No carb problems.
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:43 pm

My electricity just hit 14 cents per KWH. Just part of the "Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket!" program I assume.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:51 pm

lsayre wrote:My electricity just hit 14 cents per KWH. Just part of the "Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket!" program I assume.


Yeah that's about where mine is at too :mad:

I'm a power hog in the summer.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:50 pm

Try 20.5 cents per kwh from Ct. Light and Power.

The squint eyed phony who is now our senator says he fought long and hard to keep it that low. The governor just raised gasoline tax another four cents. We are in a race to the bottom with MA. The town just got back a resident state trooper for a mere 113,000 dollars in salary in a town with just about no crime. Shoulda hired a wet back with a shotgun for one quarter of that. Unlimited siesta time.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:11 pm

I used roughly 1600 kwhrs and bill was 165 for the past 30 days. Just off the wire, meter was read on wednesday. I dont think that was too awful for the amount of power i used.
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:21 pm

I have used about 2600 kwh since 6/10. Three air conditioners, pool pump, and a dehumidifier in the non-coal-boiler part of the basement. Typically the month of July is my largest electric bill for the year.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: hcarlow On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:30 pm

SMITTY wrote:Yep - drain that carb EVERY time it gets put away, and it'll start every time when you need it. ;)


You hit the nail on the head Smitty , we have an old generator of about 30 years and it starts on the second or third pull everytime by doing just what you said . We do add some stabil as Rob mentioned . Other than oil changes , a new spark plug once in awhile and fresh gas it keeps on going when it's needed , not to often in my case .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: hcarlow On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:57 pm

Rob R. wrote:I have used about 2600 kwh since 6/10. Three air conditioners, pool pump, and a dehumidifier in the non-coal-boiler part of the basement. Typically the month of July is my largest electric bill for the year.


Rob we put in a Mitsubishi split air conditioner this summer which cools our entire first floor ( only about 900 sq. ft. )and it ran pretty steady all last month during that hot spell and we just got our elect. bill which only went up about $18 . These new heat exchangers are very efficient , it has a 21 seer rating . I have a neighbor who heats his 1500 sq. ft. ranch with 2 of these units . During the coldest month last year his average daily elct. use was less than $ 2.60 . He does have a pellet stove in his basement that heats a family room only, which he keeps at 65 , he doesn't keep a cellar door open but I'm sure it keeps the floors warm over the family room which would help some for sure . He is replacing the pellet stove with another heat pump this summer , like he mentioned no muss no fuss .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

Re: Electric Bill Relief......

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:13 pm

hcarlow wrote:Rob we put in a Mitsubishi split air conditioner this summer which cools our entire first floor


My dad just had one of those systems installed...three different zones. I think the main unit is 40,000 btu? At any rate, their house went from being HOT and sticky to perfectly comfortable.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy