Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:01 pm

Last one till I figure how to get them all in one post. Unless you guys don't mind this way.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: warminmn On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:57 pm

I'd be buried in dog crap before I'd put a stainless liner in that chimney. I wish it was mine cuz yours will never have to be replaced, my stainless double wall will.

Even if there are leaks somewhere in that chimney, it will likely draw air into the chimney thru the leak before it would leak out of it. Heat rises and would draw air into the chimney thru the leak, if one exists. If there are leaks in your living space, they should be easy enough to find using smoke or candles, then shove some mortar in it. I hope that makes sense so you understand.

There are a lot of chimney and draft experts on here and they know more than me, but thats just my opinion of it.
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:09 pm

the flu liners look ok,some mortar loss at the joints but thats common.For the bricks that are missing mortar,either repoint the joints or wire and plaster up the entire brick work to seal and help with some structual benifets.Find a mason to cut and install and reseal the old thimble hole.Just rember that you need to have the single wall pipes 18" from combustionable material.
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:49 pm

Yep, liners look fine & that chimney's been there for a couple years I'd bet--tell your chimney sweep to fk off & get that mason, or do the thimble work yourself--- it all looks fine from your pix--maybe SMITTY will post some pix of his chimney that he's been using for years. :)
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:02 pm

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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:02 pm

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Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:03 pm

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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:04 pm

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Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:05 pm

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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:10 pm

OK thats it. Last one also basement. Thanks for the encouragement. Sweep coming tomorrrow to give estimate, I'll let you guys know if he still tries selling me a liner. Yeah chimney and house 133 years old. thanks again, Matt.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:29 pm

Hey Matt, looks like the flashing needs (or needed) some attention!

Go to the local brick/block yard and ask for a mason recommendation for the mortar work.
Rob R.
 
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: Wiz On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:47 pm

No way would I put ss liner in chimney, get mason to touch up mortar and add thimble. Listen to the members and you'll be happy you did.
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Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Previous owners had new roof installed, old water stains. Thanks again. Found a couple masons I'll call them tomorrow.
DePippo79
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:50 am

Hello again guys. Well chimney sweep came and looked. Still pushing s/s liner, but here's his reasons: 1) Oil burner flue is in sad shape next to it. Afraid the oil burner and coal exhaust ever leaked between flues (probably already happens) more damage could happen. 2) Afraid the coal acid will corrode the existing morter joints because the morter is already weak. Asked about warranty. Said if anything ever happened parts and labor are both covered. May be I should just do it till I can have the chimney rebuilt the right way. Even if I get five or ten years. Will definitely be in a better financial situation. Oh he also said they wouldn't repoint the attic segment but just cover it with mesh and special morter. To add strength. I'll still call a couple masons. New comments? Thanks Matt
DePippo79
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Stainless steel liner or thermocrete.

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:22 am

DePippo79 wrote:Hello again guys. Well chimney sweep came and looked. Still pushing s/s liner, but here's his reasons: 1) Oil burner flue is in sad shape next to it. Afraid the oil burner and coal exhaust ever leaked between flues (probably already happens) more damage could happen. 2) Afraid the coal acid will corrode the existing morter joints because the morter is already weak.


Keep in mind, draft is negative pressure...weak, but negative.
A lot of coal chimneys out there...they have just as weak mortar.
In the end...ya got to do what gives you that peace of mind, though. ;)
McGiever
 
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