Oil Heat Commercials on TV!
- BugsyR
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Thanks for the info Jim. I'll keep my eyes open for it.
IMO, the only people that think oil and fuel in the states is a bargain are people that live in Europe (or several other countries). They have been paying big bucks for a lot longer than us. IMHO, I much rather pay the today's price for regular unleaded at my local gas station ($3.17) than have to pay what they are paying in Europe. I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't like the price of heating oil and that is why I am on this site this year. Thank God for friends that motivated me into buying a coal stoker (no offense taken... ). I wish I was smarter when I moved back to PA. I would have built this house around a coal boiler as primary heat with oil or propane as secondary, along with some solar help. My bad.
I originate from the Lehigh Valley, I'll probably burn 6 ton in my 4 bedroom house up here this year but I am not complaining. I'm 6 to 12 degrees warmer than last year when I was burning oil for hot water baseboard and propane for a fireplace. Lucky him if he is getting the bang for his buck with his oil heat. I wasn't.
Come to think of it..."If I knew then, what I know today, I might have considered staying down south!"
But I have to admit I love my home state!
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IMO, the only people that think oil and fuel in the states is a bargain are people that live in Europe (or several other countries). They have been paying big bucks for a lot longer than us. IMHO, I much rather pay the today's price for regular unleaded at my local gas station ($3.17) than have to pay what they are paying in Europe. I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't like the price of heating oil and that is why I am on this site this year. Thank God for friends that motivated me into buying a coal stoker (no offense taken... ). I wish I was smarter when I moved back to PA. I would have built this house around a coal boiler as primary heat with oil or propane as secondary, along with some solar help. My bad.
I originate from the Lehigh Valley, I'll probably burn 6 ton in my 4 bedroom house up here this year but I am not complaining. I'm 6 to 12 degrees warmer than last year when I was burning oil for hot water baseboard and propane for a fireplace. Lucky him if he is getting the bang for his buck with his oil heat. I wasn't.
Come to think of it..."If I knew then, what I know today, I might have considered staying down south!"
But I have to admit I love my home state!
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....... "but when those types of comments are made that infer somehow the President (read any president) is responsible for high energy costs, you show a real lack of understanding of how world markets work today.".....coalkirk wrote:When adjusted for inflation, gas and oil are cheaper than in 1980. Gas and oil prices were held artificially low here in the US for many years while the rest of the world paid market rates. I understand the frustration but when those types of comments are made that infer somehow the President (read any president) is responsible for high energy costs, you show a real lack of understanding of how world markets work today. Energy prices are where they are due to many reasons. First and foremost, it is due to a major increase in demand from huge countries like China and India, a lack of adequate refining capacity, legislation requiring "designer gas" for various parts of the country, speculators fears of terrorism, war and natural disasters that affect the supply chain. etc.
Oil is a commidty like any other. The industry promotes itself, like any other. Oil market share for home heating has been slipping for years. They are in serious decline and fighting for long term survivial. I think it's pretty reasonable that they are advertising. They just won't get any of my money!
Is that true even when the major oil companies actualy sat in the White House & wrote the energy policies for this country?
I suggest you go back through the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings & see how they were stonewalled (by Dick Cheney) & denied info on this. (As I understand it, they actualy had their own offices in the WH)
Do "World market" forces explain the strange plummeting of oil/gasoline prices that occured just b4 November 06's election & then the immediate rise right after? (remember...gas was suddenly under $2.00/gallon. Can't wait for the next election!)
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- CoalHeat
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I've been seeing this ridiculous commercial presented be Joe Kennedy, spouting off about how the "good people of Venezuela" are bringing us "discount" heating oil for those in need. What a load of *&%$ BS.
2 examples are presented. One, a family with a husband with heart trouble, they couldn't afford heating oil, so they were "forced" to "sleep huddled around a smoky wood stove" to try to keep warm. I expected to see the family ripping doors off the kitchen cabinets and throwing them in the smoky wood stove next. The second was an elderly women with circulatory problems who couldn't afford heating oil and was "forced" to use her gas stove for heat and accidentally set her dress on fire!
The commercial ends with old Joe hanging out by the woman's empty oil tank (like he has ever seen an oil tank before) and delivering a speech about how wonderful the world is now that "the good people of Venezuela" have made all this possible. Maybe he can offer them a discount on a wind powered generator next.
Makes me want to gag.
2 examples are presented. One, a family with a husband with heart trouble, they couldn't afford heating oil, so they were "forced" to "sleep huddled around a smoky wood stove" to try to keep warm. I expected to see the family ripping doors off the kitchen cabinets and throwing them in the smoky wood stove next. The second was an elderly women with circulatory problems who couldn't afford heating oil and was "forced" to use her gas stove for heat and accidentally set her dress on fire!
The commercial ends with old Joe hanging out by the woman's empty oil tank (like he has ever seen an oil tank before) and delivering a speech about how wonderful the world is now that "the good people of Venezuela" have made all this possible. Maybe he can offer them a discount on a wind powered generator next.
Makes me want to gag.
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Richard says the Bad Word Filter has a prewritten list of words. He can remove words from the list at his discretion. Send him a PM and ask that it be removed. You can also turn off the Bad Word Filter in your Preferences Tab. I did.Devil5052 wrote:Note to Admin:
"Dick" is the correct nickname for Richard.
It is not derogatory & is what he (The Vice President) refers to himself as. Why is it always censored??
Good to know! Thanks (amazing what you can learn on this forum!......Anyone happen to know tonight's lottery #?Wood'nCoal wrote:Richard says the Bad Word Filter has a prewritten list of words. He can remove words from the list at his discretion. Send him a PM and ask that it be removed. You can also turn off the Bad Word Filter in your Preferences Tab. I did.Devil5052 wrote:Note to Admin:
"*censored*" is the correct nickname for Richard.
It is not derogatory & is what he (The Vice President) refers to himself as. Why is it always censored??
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It's just a list for words, it doesn't take context into account.I removed that one, as mentioned you cn just turn the filter off if you wish in the control panel.Devil5052 wrote:Note to Admin:
"Dick" is the correct nickname for Richard.
It is not derogatory & is what he (The Vice President) refers to himself as. Why is it always censored??
- JiminBucks
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Coalkirk, who wants to bet me that by next fall, the markets will correct themselves and puff the price of crude will fall thru the ballot room floor. Political ecomonics 101
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Happens every time.JiminBucks wrote:Coalkirk, who wants to bet me that by next fall, the markets will correct themselves and puff the price of crude will fall thru the ballot room floor. Political ecomonics 101
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Hillary is telling everyone that if she is elected prez, she'll make the fuel prices come down...here's something she said recently:
When the world hears her commitment at her inauguration about ending American dependence on foreign fuel, Clinton says, oil-pumping countries will lower prices to stifle America's incentive to develop alternative energy.
"I predict to you, the oil-producing countries will drop the price of oil," Clinton said, speaking at the Manchester YWCA. "They will once again assume, once the cost pressure is off, Americans and our political process will recede."
Clinton argued that former President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s actually started moving in the right direction toward energy independence, but his successor, Ronald Reagan, "dismantled" that work.
What I find funny is that she really thinks US voters are really that stupid.
When the world hears her commitment at her inauguration about ending American dependence on foreign fuel, Clinton says, oil-pumping countries will lower prices to stifle America's incentive to develop alternative energy.
"I predict to you, the oil-producing countries will drop the price of oil," Clinton said, speaking at the Manchester YWCA. "They will once again assume, once the cost pressure is off, Americans and our political process will recede."
Clinton argued that former President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s actually started moving in the right direction toward energy independence, but his successor, Ronald Reagan, "dismantled" that work.
What I find funny is that she really thinks US voters are really that stupid.
- JiminBucks
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Hey BugsyR , I just heard that commercial on the weather channel, and it's the NORA. Humm very similar to another group of ???? people. I wonder if old DickC is on the board!