harman fs 250 newbie need help please

Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:07 pm

Here is where I got my stove pipe. I think this pipe is awesome and well priced.

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chimney/B ... Stove-Pipe

A manometer measures the negative pressure (draft) in your flue pipe.
Below is a pic of one that most of us use. Its cheap and reliable..
Its a Dwyer Mark II
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:25 pm

Here is a thread with some pics of manometer installs. There are other threads with other pics as well. If you put 'manometer' in the search box in upper right corner of the screen it will bring up quite a few threads.


Got a manometer - now what

The indoor flue pipe i use is snap together black pipe, T's and adjustable 90*'s from the local TSC store and/or woodstove shop depending on who had what at the time.

I also have a Bar B Que thermometer that has a threaded fitting screwed into the flue pipe for temp measurement. That comes in handy to keep an eye on conditions to make sure I am not wastefully sending heat up the chimney.
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:28 pm

titleist1, check that link.. It wouldn't work for me.. :)
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:30 am

fixed the link...thanks for the heads up...
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:40 pm

Lightning wrote:Here is where I got my stove pipe. I think this pipe is awesome and well priced.

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chimney/B ... Stove-Pipe



Is it all 22 gauge?
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:31 pm

lsayre wrote:Is it all 22 gauge?


Yes I believe the Champion black pipe is. They also offer Duravent that I think is 24 gauge.
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: bodie On: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:53 pm

this manometer is the samething we use on are paint both at work.does this come with everything you need? where is the cheapest to buy it? where to get a baro at .thanks to everyone just don't want to buy something i really don't need. my stove is in the basement ready to hook up i will try to get pic up as soon as i can. i just want to get ready for cold weather. thanks again to everyone
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:03 pm

As far as I'm concerned, every coal burning appliance should have these. Especially a hand fed unit :D They will help you get the best efficiency and consistent burn. And that's what we want right? 8-)


I got mine on Ebay. Here is one currently for auction. Normal price is $25.00 to $40.00 new. Make sure you get the model 25 - NOT the model 27.. I made this mistake when I get my first one. The model 25 has the expanded scale in the lower pressure range that you need to see accurately..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dwyer-Mark-II-M ... 4d0f8b6531

Here is the Baro that most of us use. This auction is for a 6 inch flue. Not sure what size you need. You want one that will fit your flue pipe size of course lol. The Field Controls RC Draft control.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIELD-CONTROLS- ... 1c20ae8a95
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Vinmaker On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:15 am

Welcome to the Forum my fellow SF-250 owner. :)

I am late to the post as i tend to jump on here as the season gets closer to the burn season. Just ordered my coal and am getting ready for winter.

"Winter is coming". ( I love that the Game of Thrones has made it such a pop culture saying).

I am a bit more low tech than the people here. I still use a manual damper as that is what I am most comfortable with and do not like having any openings in my stove pipe. I want all the gas to exit up the chimney and do not want any openings to allow any potential leakage. If that means a bit stronger draft during windy days. then so be it. I err on the side of a strong draft. Coal likes air. :)

Search the forum for posts on how to shrink the firebox using a plate of steel and firebrick. I do this to shut down 2/5th of the firebox. Only three of my grates are used (back ones). When the real cold hits, you can remove the firebrick and crank up all 5 grates and use the full capacity of the stove. You will save on coal in the fall and spring. You may also find that where you live, you may be fine with only using the 3 grates all year long.

As people mentioned, coal likes a deep bed. By shrinking your firebox you can increase the depth of the coal pile and not have to try to spread out a thin layer of coal to keep from being blown out of your house with all the heat. lol.

Feel free to ask any question you have. I am more than happy to give you my opinion. Hehehehe.

Vin.
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:34 pm

Vinmaker wrote:I am a bit more low tech than the people here. I still use a manual damper as that is what I am most comfortable with and do not like having any openings in my stove pipe. I want all the gas to exit up the chimney and do not want any openings to allow any potential leakage. If that means a bit stronger draft during windy days. then so be it. I err on the side of a strong draft. Coal likes air.


I admire your concern for safety partner. Although, if the chimney draft fails, CO will find its way into the stove room whether its thru a baro or stove pipe joints. Even if the stove pipe joints are sealed air tight, CO will ooze out the primary and secondary combustion air feeds. A manometer will keep you informed of your draft situation in real time. Don't fear the baro, they work miracles when it comes to maintaining a steady heat output thru the burn time 8-)
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Vinmaker On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:21 pm

I agree with you that a loss of draft will leak out anyhow. So true. I just hope that by being tight, I can maintain the strongest possible draft given the conditions. To me a baro has the ability to dial down the draft. I know.....it needs to be set right. I just like things low-tech.

P.S. Not looking to highjack the thread with a MD vs. BD conversation. :)
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Re: harman fs 250 newbie need help please

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Hey that's cool partner! I respect your position :-) No debate intended :D
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