Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: Maro On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:02 am

I am considering a Hitzer 30-95 for my 1400 sq. ft home. I will be placing it in my 1st floor foyer where my Lopi wood stove presently sits. The house is a 4 square built in 1925. I have sheet sheet rocked and re-insulated a number of rooms. I have also replaced entry doors with modern ones. Also, almost all of the old windows have been replace with modern low E double pane vinyl windows. My basement ceiling is insulated wit R-13. The basement walls are not insulated.
I live in Syracuse NY where the winters can get pretty cold. I realize that fall and spring will bring the temperature variables into play.The season time period I am inquiring about is November to March. My question is: will this stove be adequate to keep my home comfortably warm and is there a possibility it will become too warm.

Thanks
Maro
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:15 pm

Welcome to the FORUM Maro. M, I'm thinkin a 30-95 should work fine as long as you can keep the hot air moving--ceiling fan, blower on stove, any floor vents if needed--not to worry about it putting to much heat out--the stove is real adjustable heat out put wise--bi-metallic thermostat works real well. How did the LOPI work? You're looking at an excellent stove my friend.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: franco b On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:01 pm

freetown fred wrote:How did the LOPI work?

That's a good question and could give you a good idea of what you need. Is the Lopi one of the more advanced models? If so then judging by the pounds of wood needed you could judge how much coal you need to burn to get equivalent Btu. figuring about half on a poundage basis.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: Maro On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:05 pm

Freetown Fred, I do use a blower and ceiling fans. The Lopi Endevor worked well except when the temp fell below 10 degrees F. We often had cold mornings as the fire usually had been out for a couple of hours. I need a more constant BTU source. This is one reason why I'm switching to coal. The other reason is because my back cant take the wood anymore. I can have the bagged coal delivered and stored, via my supplier and teenage son, and still be able to lift 20 lbs of coal when needed. I've done a lot of research on stoker and non-stoker coal stoves and I've decided on a non-stoker in case of power outages. I know several former wood burners who have switched to coal and all of them say they'd never go back to wood. I'm a new-be to coal so I appreciate any and all inputs from coal veterans. Thanks Fred :taz:
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Coal Size/Type: Nut
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Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93

Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:10 pm

I hear all that my friend--have you checked out the Hitzer 50-93---next hand fired up---might be something to consider---better to much then to little--again--bi-metal thermo is real workable control wise.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: Den034071 On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:32 pm

Maro i have the 3095 also .Heating 1440 sq feet .I did some new windows an insulated attic .Ranch 1 story house stove upstairs in lv room .Honestly with help oliver an f fred fastcat ihave dialed stove in tp to comfort .Im 54 miles north of Philly .When Jan. arctic blast came in house wsa 73 degrees .Pm me if i can help.I did wood 15 years til son hurt himself wit6h chs chain saw .Hitzer makes quality stoves .Jack the bricklayer Deno34071
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:05 pm

Maro wrote:The Lopi Endevor worked well except when the temp fell below 10 degrees F.

Lopi Endeavor is rated at 72K BTU. Hitzer 30-95 is 60K BTU. They're both lying, of course, but let's assume they are both lying about the same amount :lol: , then you might need bigger than the Hitzer 30-95. Fred's suggestion of the Hitzer 50-93 is good. You certainly won't be TOO hot in the really cold weather, because coal can be throttled back to burn at a much lower rate than the maximum. I think the 50-93 is rated at over 100K BTU, and I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it can be throttled down to about 12,000. That probably won't roast you out spring and fall, but you might have to open a window now and then.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: fastcat On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:56 am

looking at the figures that have been stated the 30-95 will do it but it will be chugging pretty hard on the coldest days where as the 50-93 would be just humming along. My vote is the 50-93. Here is one I found.



HITZER COAL STOVE - $400
HITZER COAL STOVE MODEL # E-Z FLO 50-93

In very nice condition. Works well--will keep you snuggly warm!

I do not have the time to maintain it though.

If interested email me at the address below or text me at (607)590-7676.

Would consider a best offer too and can provide a picture if needed.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:37 am

Notice I have both, the 30-95, and the 50-93. Both good stoves. The 30-95 should heat your house from the first floor just fine. I too agree with Fred. If I had to buy one, or the other, my choice would be the 50-93 for the following reasons. 1.) 50-93 has strait vertical fire box (less clinkers). Back wall of the 30-95 fire box is slanted (prone to creating clinkers). 2.) 50-93 has much higher BTU rating, should it be needed. 3.) 50-93 has longer burn time if needed (larger coal capacity) 4.) 50-93's "duel" Smaller diameter fan is quieter. 5.) Both use about the same amount of coal, which tells me the 30-95 is less efficient (better for poor drafting chimneys). Both stoves will idle down nicely. And the 50-93 is only $100.00 more than the 30-95. If the time ever comes to sell the stove, the market would be bigger for the 50-93. Oliver
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:50 am

Welcome to the forums! always love hearing from new folks and this is a great place to get outspoken real world advise (tempered with a lil' fun between friends :poke: )

Im not a very big advocate of Hitler toothy but stick to Olivers advice (Coalbed's burning on a ski slope is just plain stupidity). If you have any problems with the "flipsy fairy flapper" you can refer to this thread for the fix ;) Please Help!! Hitzer 50-93
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:15 am

Don't send potential Hitzer burners on a wild goose chase! That link worked for him but I think was totally unnecessary. Of the hundreds of posts on the bi-metallic thermo on here, a little tweaking or re-setting the flap chain ( 2 minute job) has always remedied any problems. Just sayin ;)
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:00 am

freetown fred wrote:Don't send potential Hitzer burners on a wild goose chase! That link worked for him but I think was totally unnecessary. Of the hundreds of posts on the bi-metallic thermo on here, a little tweaking or re-setting the flap chain ( 2 minute job) has always remedied any problems. Just sayin ;)


It was actually a very simple and good fix for him that others have done who don't wish to rely on the flipsy flapper to control their stove (I know some love the flipsy flapper) but for those who don't.... its a viable option :up:
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:10 am

I must of missed those OTHERS in my reading here. That "flipsy flapper" will & does maintain stove temp automatically without the need to keep messing with the manual spin type as found on so many wood stoves & yes some antique base burners--In this Hitzer 50-93's owner & user's opinion--through trial & error--I'll stick with how the stove was/ has been made for MANY years---of course if I was bored & had way to much time on my hands---yes--the spinner could become quite the conversation piece.
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Re: Will a Hitzer 30-95 accommodate a 1400 square ft home?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:59 am

freetown fred wrote:Don't send potential Hitzer burners on a wild goose chase! That link worked for him but I think was totally unnecessary. Of the hundreds of posts on the bi-metallic thermo on here, a little tweaking or re-setting the flap chain ( 2 minute job) has always remedied any problems. Just sayin ;)


I had almost forgotten about that guy. That is a perfect example of trying to heat too much house with too little stove and poor heat distribution...either he didn't understand how the automatic control works, or something was wrong with it. :idea: We have also seen folks leave the spinner closed and retrofit the Hitzer setup to have more stable stove temps. ;)

Back to the question that started the thread....a 30-95 might keep you warm, but the 50-93 has a better firebox design and more reserve for the nasty days.
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