Need advise on new stove

Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:16 pm

Looking to get new stove live in NC where winters are mild teens to twentys.Been looking at hitzer 608 stoker or dsm 1500 circulator,power grid is stable but also like the handfire.For the NC winters in 1600ft single level what would be my best bet,or should I look at other stoves. Thanks for any input. Have been burning anthracite for 3yrs in 1902 cook stove.
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:16 am

I know Hitzer and DSM both make good stoves. It is going to come down to personal preference on looks and also on the hand fed vs. stoker.

I have had a hand fed, now have a stoker. I prefer the stoker because it is less work involved for me. However ours is in the basement so I don't hear the fans running. If I had it in the living area, that would probably make a difference.

As far as looks, you better get input on that from the 'decorating committee' on what is acceptable. Some say the DSM's are a little industrial looking. Depending on the style house you have, something like a refurb'ed Glenwood hand fed may fit the decor very well.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:04 pm

Thanks for the input,I guess my biggest question about handfired stove is being able to run at low fire on warmer days.What would be my best bet for a manual stove with hopper?Stove will be main heat will only use use oil as backup.Is there a good stove that will run on the warmer days without going out? And where is good place to buy bagged or loose coal that will bring to NC, want to buy in bulk want 20-30 ton.Thanks
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a


Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:47 pm

gl, I know a lot of people here think I got a lot of stock in HITZER---wouldn't that be nice ;) BUT--I do know an outstanding hand fired stove after using my 50-93 for 5 seasons :) Check out the HITZER 30-95 & 50-93 both are real quality & YES, they dial down nicely in the cuff seasons---that 1902 piece sounds real nice, she got bread warmers above? I'd love to see a pix of that one
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:55 pm

Been looking at hitzer 50/93 sounds like great stove only concern is idle on warmer days.How well does stats work on the big name stoves to control air? Really new to coal only used last few yrs on my 1902 cook stove,nice stove like it but its more work to keep running all day.Really like cooking on it makes great bread every think seems to taste better.No warmer on top has two shelfs will post pics soon.Thanks
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:04 pm

gl, I'm heating 2200 sq with a 50-93--all broke up 250 yr old farm house--new windows 18 yrs ago--insulated as well as a post & beam structure can be-- the bi-metallic thermo works real well--if I'm warm, I'm warm--it'd be good to know your house layout & where you plan to place the stove--will the cook stove still be used? All I can tell ya is the 50-93 can be shut down real low--how long do you have those 20* temps down there--I'm familiar with the Union Grove, NC area--outstanding bluegrass festival-- I would not write off the 30-95
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freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:45 pm

If you are looking for high efficiency and the ability to burn constantly at extremely low temperatures, then a stove of this type is the absolute best design for that. I have put a link down here for you to click on and read. There are many companies that made these designs and they are available in the Northeast. You can get one totally restored from either the Antique Stove Hospital or Doug at Barnstable Stove Shop. The trick is figuring out the size that you need for your house. Click on link below.


http://nepacrossroads.com/about20716.html
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:00 pm

I really like the old base burners-parlor stoves,but didn't know if I could run them at low temps on warm days.I got my kitchen stove from Emory at Stove Hospital,the old stoves will look great with stacked stone wall I did and tile floor.As to lay out of house was small 700ft I remoldeled added almost 1000ft.Come in to foyor turn rt to 20x40 bdrm, bath , closet had you went left into open living rm and kitchen and dining rm with tv rm and bath thru open doorway.It's our last home only one bdrm so kids can't come and stay to long,got to stand on their on two feet if you know what I mean.Cook stove did good job heating all but bath off bdrm have ceiling fans in 3 rms so good air circulation. Will old base burner run 24hr on 1 load of nut?Need info on getting tractor trailor load of coal, just want to have on hand when grap hits the fan.Thanks
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:04 pm

gunloader55 wrote:I really like the old base burners-parlor stoves,but didn't know if I could run them at low temps on warm days.I got my kitchen stove from Emory at Stove Hospital,the old stoves will look great with stacked stone wall I did and tile floor.As to lay out of house was small 700ft I remoldeled added almost 1000ft.Come in to foyor turn rt to 20x40 bdrm, bath , closet had you went left into open living rm and kitchen and dining rm with tv rm and bath thru open doorway.It's our last home only one bdrm so kids can't come and stay to long,got to stand on their on two feet if you know what I mean.Cook stove did good job heating all but bath off bdrm have ceiling fans in 3 rms so good air circulation. Will old base burner run 24hr on 1 load of nut?Need info on getting tractor trailor load of coal, just want to have on hand when grap hits the fan.Thanks


I don't think any modern hand fed stove could burn as long as a large antique baseburner (the attributes of these machines are just to perfect for EXACTLY that purpose), I wont get into all the technical reasons for this (many threads here can explain the many reasons why this is), suffice to say or great grandfathers thought about everything at a time when their was no choice BUT to think of everything (these stoves were the pinnacle of coal burning and to reproduce them today is simply not feasible which is why its not done), its expensive enough to rebuild an existing one.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:52 pm

Thanks for all the information if I can find a baseburner for the right price I'm sold.Can't find in NC if anyone knows of good one let me know,also will call Emory to see what he has.Will send pics of installation.
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:06 pm

http://www.gingercreekstoves.com/

They are really only an internet store but they have a baseburner or two.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:49 pm

Hi gunloader55 and welcome to the forum.
About antique stoves, you can run them at a very low temp. without any problem, but always better to run an anth stove at low to moderate temp. so the gases will be burnt more efficiently. I have a small base burner that can be run at 125*F with a ""tea spoon"" of anth. for a steady 12 Hrs non-touch. But the same small stove can burn at much more temp. if wanted...
Gingercreek Antique Stoves is a very nice place to get infos on antique stoves and they are very good peoples.
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:16 am

Going there today talked with Russel yesterday thanks for the input.
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: gunloader55 On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:39 pm

I'm looking at a crawford 40 does anyone know anyhing about this stove,and how will it compare with glenwood #6 is one stove made better or operate differant. Want to thank everyone for all the help.
gunloader55
 
Stove/Furnace Model: Glenwood 6 & wm 414a

Re: Need advise on new stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:54 pm

Put Crawford in the search box and you will find the posts by wsherrick that will explain a lot to you.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea