Eric Holder to ease drug laws

Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:11 pm

Don't get me wrong. I think our draconian drug laws are insane and in serious need of modification (to out right elimination). That said, who elected Eric Holder? I thought he was appointed. I also thought that States had their own laws, and when it comes to Federal law, Congress makes, amends, and/or does away with laws? Who gave Holder the direct authority to modify a nations local, State, and Federal drug laws?
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:38 pm

Isayre, is this a law or a proposal? I too think some ill advised drug laws have been on the books for far too long being that they did nothing but throw many into prison for far too long & for what but a minor offense & to learn the drug trade off of real traffickers.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:45 pm

Two words.

Seig Heil!

Haven't you realized yet? This totalitarian administration does whatever the flip it wants and it doesn't care. They want to ease up on drug laws, they do it. They want to March down the street and take everyone's gun, they do it. Bammy wants to declare himself supreme ruler of the world, he does it.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:55 am

He wants lesser penalties in case he gets caught in his next scandal? :D
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:20 am

Flyer5 wrote:He wants lesser penalties in case he gets caught in his next scandal? :D


And who says politicians don't think ahead :idea:
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:02 am

I'd agree with him but his opinion is no more important than mine on what the law is. How do you go about not enforcing the law?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/ ... -minimums/

Washington (CNN) -- The Justice Department will no longer pursue mandatory minimum sentences for certain low-level, nonviolent drug offenders, Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday, noting the nation is "coldly efficient in jailing criminals," but that it "cannot prosecute or incarcerate" its way to becoming safer.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 am

They ignore what law they please. Immigration law has been ignored for years by both parties.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:55 am

franco b wrote:They ignore what law they please. Immigration law has been ignored for years by both parties.


To some dgree but this is specific law, if the law says mandatory minimum it's not recommended minimum. How does a prosecutor decide not to enforce it? What's he going to decide to not enforce next?

It's the same thing with the AG here in PA with the gay marriage ban, she decided she wasn't going to defend it. That was she was elected to do, she doesn't have a choice. Her personal opinions are irrelevant.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: mozz On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:09 pm

I think they should actually double the fines, jail terms, and whatever else is associated with it. There is enough people already messed up in the brain and there is going to be more weirdos if this goes through. The way this friggin idiot thinks, they should legalize sniffing gasoline so they can make more on the taxes. Didn't he screw up enough with all the free guns he gave the druggies only to kill a few US government employees?
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:17 pm

Richard S. wrote:
franco b wrote:They ignore what law they please. Immigration law has been ignored for years by both parties.


To some dgree but this is specific law, if the law says mandatory minimum it's not recommended minimum. How does a prosecutor decide not to enforce it? What's he going to decide to not enforce next?

It's the same thing with the AG here in PA with the gay marriage ban, she decided she wasn't going to defend it. That was she was elected to do, she doesn't have a choice. Her personal opinions are irrelevant.

The prosecutor still enforces the law he just avoids that particular charge.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:41 pm

If we keep going at the rate we are it will soon be cheaper to house the non-criminals in the prisons we have than to build enough for all of the minor offenders that have to serve a minimum sentence. Lets face it when a law doesn't work & just continues to get worse as the decades go by it's way past time to admit it was a failure. :idea:
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:07 pm

The war on drugs has been as big a failure as the war on poverty. Ditto for government sponsored education. The war on medicine and health care will be yet another massive failure.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:11 pm

samhill wrote:If we keep going at the rate we are it will soon be cheaper to house the non-criminals in the prisons we have than to build enough for all of the minor offenders that have to serve a minimum sentence. Lets face it when a law doesn't work & just continues to get worse as the decades go by it's way past time to admit it was a failure. :idea:


Sam I think most people would agree but the law has to be changed. The issue here is an unelected official deciding what laws they are going to enforce. Why bother having elected people make laws if the AG can simply decide to not enforce them? I don't recall the AG's office having veto powers over Congress.

Holder's job or the job of any AG is to enforce the laws whatever they may.
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: plumb-r On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:06 pm

So those people that break the law and do drugs get a pass but if you decide not to buy health insurance the wrath of god is upon you. :gee: This is one messed up country. :no1:
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Re: Eric Holder to ease drug laws

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Richard S. wrote:I'd agree with him but his opinion is no more important than mine on what the law is. How do you go about not enforcing the law?


I hope he remembers this the next time the discussion rolls around to jury nullification. Or state nullification of Federal laws....
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