Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: BEAKER On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:05 pm

Hello everyone, Im new to the site and new to coal stoves as well.

So my friend asked me to help him by using my truck and scraping a bunch of junk out of his basement (with landlords permission).
One of the items was this Beauty of a Red Cross Garnet #28 (baseburner?), she needs some work but Im in love with her allready. Not really sure what Im going to do with her. Sell, keep and use, not sure.

One thing is for sure, I would like to restore her if I can efford to. Must I have the pot recast? It seems like its in good shape, Im just now dismantling. How much does it cost to have a recast made? $500? $5000? Honestly I have no Idea.

Plating should not be a problem, I have a plater in my area that does alot of work for the company I work for, and I have access to a sand blaster, and can order mica. BUT RECASTING??? Im scared to even think about it.

Does anyone know how much my baby might be worth now (ballpark ofcourse). Or anything about this stove? Remember what you might think is basic in the coal stove world I probably dont know. :oops:

I would really like to restore this wonderfull stove :)
Any help or advice is more than appriciated! oh and I have many more pics...
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I paid the guy $100 for this baby, to think he was going to SCRAP this thing!!
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BEAKER
 
Stove/Furnace Make: co operative foundry
Stove/Furnace Model: red cross garnet 28

Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:10 pm

It looks like a large gap behind that ash door.
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:21 pm

Yep, appears to have a piece broke off there--hopefully the piece is inside?????????? Must be around somewhere according to the 2nd pix. Nice lookin old girl:)
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: BEAKER On: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:49 pm

yes, I do have the missing pieces. There are several repairs that are needed. I know many good to great welders, I am hoping they can weld that and the few other breaks and cracks back on humpty back together again. However the finial is nowhere to be found. :(
BEAKER
 
Stove/Furnace Make: co operative foundry
Stove/Furnace Model: red cross garnet 28

Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:04 am

ME???? I'd still think she is worth the refurb--there's people on here that can help you on that pricing of stuff. Hey beaker, throw some sand topping or something on that foundation by the bench ;) By the way---welcome to the FORUM :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: BEAKER On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:22 am

I have alot of things around here that need doing, one thing is for sure, Im not working on that now because Im working on the other 20 projects to improve my home, playing with my young children, working all day long and taking care of my elderly mothers house and yard.
But yes you do have an eye for detail. :) Im sorry you just struck a soar spot, I often feel like I just cant keep up with things. :lol:

Thanks for the advise, Im waiting to here back from Goodtimestoves that I found on the net, and hoping someone here may have some input. I too am hoping that its still worth saving...

oh crap i gota go...work is calling my name :(
BEAKER
 
Stove/Furnace Make: co operative foundry
Stove/Furnace Model: red cross garnet 28

Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:32 am

BEAKER wrote:I have alot of things around here that need doing, one thing is for sure, Im not working on that now because Im working on the other 20 projects to improve my home, playing with my young children, working all day long and taking care of my elderly mothers house and yard.
But yes you do have an eye for detail. :) Im sorry you just struck a soar spot, I often feel like I just cant keep up with things. :lol:

Thanks for the advise, Im waiting to here back from Goodtimestoves that I found on the net, and hoping someone here may have some input. I too am hoping that its still worth saving...

oh crap i gota go...work is calling my name :(


This is just a test and only a test, in case of an actual.....you know the rest anyway what's one more thing on the list. The stove just added quite a few things but they are also well worth it, keep up the good work ( about the kids and mom ) don't forget god makes rainbows for those that can see the light!
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:35 am

I am just finishing up a Red Cross Garnet #48 complete with hopper/chute and I consider it the jewel of my collection. These stoves are incredibly well made and I am setting up to use it this winter although it is really too large for me to use I am determined to try and the flu is being installed today. The #48 is a double heater and a base burner but the fire glow it gives to the room makes it a choice of stove for me. Put mirrors everywhere and forget TV. THIS is the worlds best coal stove. Does anybody know how many different Red Cross Garnet models were made? I did not even know there was a #28. Good luck with it - priceless.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:03 am

Breaker Breaker.....

With all due respect to elder statesman, F@CK the sand topping and worry about the kids or the stove. The thing to do with the topping is to let it all fall off and leave the damn stuff off. Might even be better as there are no places for bugs and moisture to hide, absolute window dressing, nothing more.... mess with it someday after the kids move away and you find yourself watching reruns of oprah.... and rest assured FF wasnt making any judgements.

Dont ya just wish you could go around and look in any basement or old barn you wished and find the jewels like that stove? can you imagine just how many treasures there are out there? Awesome git mister... congrats :mrgreen:

Waldo
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:16 am

Breaker, I'll trade ya even up with this 250 yr old farm house for that place of yours--me & the house are having a race as to which is settling faster, me or the house--like stated FK that cosmetic stuff, it ain't going nowhere--enjoy the hell out of them thar kids, mine are grown & gone, and helping out your Mom--I lost mine at 99 last Thanksgiving. You got your priorities right :D PS---that stove refurb will give ya some quiet, me time ;)
BEAKER wrote:I have alot of things around here that need doing, one thing is for sure, Im not working on that now because Im working on the other 20 projects to improve my home, playing with my young children, working all day long and taking care of my elderly mothers house and yard.
But yes you do have an eye for detail. :) Im sorry you just struck a soar spot, I often feel like I just cant keep up with things. :lol:

Thanks for the advise, Im waiting to here back from Goodtimestoves that I found on the net, and hoping someone here may have some input. I too am hoping that its still worth saving...

oh crap i gota go...work is calling my name :(
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:21 am

That is a beautiful stove and thanks for extending the "hand of rescue"to it. Oh my,If that stove could only talk what tales it could tell,I just know it. Actually ,it is talking. Good Luck with it. Mike
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: nortcan On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:39 am

Hi Beaker and welcome to the forum.
You got a very good stove, Red Cross stoves are well made stoves and nice ones too.
A good sand blasting job will give back the day one to that stove...
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:58 am

Good looking classic you have there.

I have 14 inch Fire Pots being cast from a pattern that I supplied. Each one is going to cost me just under $100.
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Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: BEAKER On: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:17 pm

Michael Anthony, thanks for the inspiration friend.

Coal newbie, I would love to see your #48, I cant find hardly any info on the net about what and how many models they had

Waldo, well hell Im just down the road from you, in Elmira. I would love to go basement browsing at my free will. This #28 came out of a house down here on Water St. It sat down there through the flood of 72. Owner said it was in the basement when he bought the house....

Freetown Fred, thanks for the kind words, yes I try soakin up as much time as I can with my little ones. I could be gone tomorrow....
Its all the details that I can keep up with...

Stovepipemike, Thanks she is a looker isn't she? Im hopin to spend many nites chattin er up

Nortcan, Oh yeah I sandblasted my first piece today, one of the doors. Man that's rough on the back humpin over that booth. I got a back with a lot of titanium in it, its gona be rough but worth it for sure

wannabe, wow 100 bucks each sounds like a deal to me! how do I make a pattern?

Thanks everybody for the positive motivation, Ill post some more pics soon
BEAKER
 
Stove/Furnace Make: co operative foundry
Stove/Furnace Model: red cross garnet 28

Re: Scored a Red Cross Garnet #28 base burner now what??

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:22 pm

You have found a forgotten jewel that has been waiting to be rediscovered for decades. It was once the pride and focal point of the house it was put in.
These are not just ornate antiques useful only as dust catching relics. They are masterpieces of high engineering and scientific appliction. You are looking at a heating appliance that when properly operated and in good condition can render efficencies in the 80-90 percent range.
Next a little advise. Good Time Stove Company is outrageously over priced. They charge two to three times what other stove restorers charge for the same product. The best people to talk to are Emery at Antique Stove Hospital or Doug at Barnstable Stove Company. They both have web pages and I know them both personally. They will be much more realistic about what needs to be done and how much it will cost.
Red Cross Stoves are very desirable stoves and well made.
What ever the cost is to restore it. It is worth it. And you don't want somebody touching it that isn't completely familiar with these things.
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