Refractory cord or cement.

Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:14 pm

I am restoring the old weso tile stove, i had bought last spring.
Now that i am at the point to put it back together i have the burning question,what to do with the
stove body.
The front, back and side panels are bolted together but will i seal them with cement or can i do that
with that heat resistant rope.
I was wondering if the rope can stand the heat so close at the fire?
Hope that some one can tell.
I like the job but don't want to do it again for the next 20 years on this stove.

Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:22 pm

jp, how about a pix?
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Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:32 pm

Hello, FF.
What toke you so long to ask for pictures :D
I have a few from dismantling the stove some where, but not yet from the complete stove.

Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

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Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Here a picture.
Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:52 pm

And a few more from the dismantling.

Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:00 pm

All you are concerned with is the inner stove itself. The outer tiles do not need any sealing.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:12 pm

Thank you, Franco.

And yes the tiles are not the problem, but the cast iron panels.
The front, back and side panels i should seal, but with what ?
Cement or cord?

Peter
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:08 pm

just peter wrote:The front, back and side panels i should seal, but with what ?

Furnace cement unless there are very large gaps which I doubt. You can probably see what was used originally. Rutland furnace cement is very creamy which is good for getting into small gaps. Other makes have more sand which is stronger for large gaps.

Beautiful stove and I like you have the upper heat exchange. Other users have had trouble burning coal in the early models and the grates are probably not too effective with American coal, but I think the stove is worth persisting with and even making some modifications if need be.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:23 pm

Thank you Franco,
Attached you find a detail picture of the connection from the side panel and the back panel.
There was only cement so i stick to the cement.
The grate doesn't look much.
I think it is basicly designed for lignite brickets, but i will give it a try with anthracite, or even with some
bituminous coal.

Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:03 pm

Just realized you are in The Netherlands. Always amazed at how well people from your country know English. I have read that the native speech of Friesland is the closest thing to English in Europe.

That corner gap looks pretty large but I would not change it without knowing why it is that way, might be a good reason for it.

Looking at the pictures I don't see any grates and assumed you had taken them out. I hope that is the case.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: nortcan On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:23 pm

Very nice stove. European stoves are beautiful.
Just like Franco said, better to work with furnace cement. Some have fiber in it and that give a better result cause having a little flexibility. If some gaps are too large you should try to fix it if there is a panel to panel bad fit. If not put a rope gasket with a lot of f.cement .
Keep on sending photos.
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Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:38 pm

Years ago I dismantled my German made Buderus Juno to reseal all the panels, which are the firebox pieces. I used a Rutland product in caulk tube for a caulk gun. The stove was a 3115 not all that large but I used 3 tubes to seal the generous cast iron joints.
Mine even had that little door pictured to put paper in and to light to get the draft going.
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Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:03 pm

jp, beautiful stove my friend. I suspect you've gotten your answer here ;) Like stated, keep them,thar progression pix a comin. :)
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Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: just peter On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:02 pm

Thank you all for the advice, about using the cement.
Unfortunaly i can't find any Rutland stuff here in Holland.
But there is some replacement to find I'm sure.
I'm just back at home from the late shift,what takes a bit more time as i like due to a rush job
Well its just oil business, and thats why I burn coal :D
Tomorrow i plan to put the stove body together, and i promise i will take more pictures, and post them.
I thank you for the compliment for my English, but because i work in a english enviroment i am quite used to it.
It is 01.00 h in the night so i go to bed.
So have a good night, and drink a nice cup of coffee with Freddy tomorrow morning.
My coal burning brothers.

Peter.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, unknown Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: unknown, Weso
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: Refractory cord or cement.

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:36 am

Nice jp, lookin forward to pix :)
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