Can't decide

Re: Can't decide

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:35 am

Any chance you could take delivery of a TT load of coal? $250 "in the bin" is still cheap heat, but you could probably get a TT load for $180-200 per ton.


Good idea, then I would go out and buy Hitzer 50-93
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: cmk9180 On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:44 am

Ok let me put it like this. It's also a money thing. I've heated my house with both fuels. It takes roughly 7 tons of coal, which costs approx $1750 plus tax to heat the house. Too much!!!! I've got over 100 acres of hardwoods that I can cut on. Me and Grandpa take the easiest stuff to get at and we split the cost of a load of logs. The best solution I've come up with is just buy two or three tons for the coldest months and burn wood in the shoulder months.

Besides, I love cutting with him and can't put a price on hearing Grandpa's Korean War stories and his wisdom. :-)
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:50 am

You go ahead and enjoy your time spent with Grandpa...the coal will still be here when you're ready. :D
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: cmk9180 On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:04 am

I hope so. If our politicians haven't outlawed it by then. I tell people to buy American heating units and vote for people that support coal and other American-produced energy.
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:29 am

Amen.
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:38 am

Very important to buy as much as possible American made products (I include canada in America or North America). We all know that the present times are world wide markets but we must buy the products whom are the most profitable near us to let incomes, jobs, profits... near us. That applies not only for toys and gadgets...
Once, American cars industrie was: the NO.1 world wide. Now American cars can compete with other big Wing Wang brands. Just an example but if we have to change a vehicule we MUST try an American one first. Ford is a good example of competitive vehicules.

OOPS, forgot the subject.
The idea of making the wood jobs with your grandpa is a nice one. I did love working in the wood few years ago but anth burning is so easy ...Having a good house insulation can reduce the amount of combustible needed to heat a house. Sometimes little things can be done easily and give good results.
3400 Sqf needing about 7 tons seems a lot of coal.
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: cmk9180 On: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:56 pm

Well, I bought the Woodchuck 4000 dual fuel furnace. I hope to get many years of warmth out of it. Thanks for the input.

3400 sq ft needing 7 tons of coal.... That was when I tried to heat whole the house with just a Hitzer 50-93. Silly me!!! Lesson learned. I was dumb to think that a stove would do the same job as a furnace.The Hitzer did ok to it's credit. The warmest my house got was 66 degrees when it was -5 outside. Unacceptable to the spousal unit and me too.
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:02 am

Besides, I love cutting with him and can't put a price on hearing Grandpa's Korean War stories and his wisdom. :-)


I am envious! Whenever I start giving my boys wisdom they tell me to shut up. So I told them to go cut their own damned wood. 60% efficiency when burning anth. is too low for me. Hinsdale, 3400 sq ft, yep that's 7 tons and the Hitzer is overmatched. When you tire of ol' fart stories come back and we can steer you better. Stay warm. LOL
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:40 am

cmk9180 wrote:Well, I bought the Woodchuck 4000 dual fuel furnace. I hope to get many years of warmth out of it. Thanks for the input.

3400 sq ft needing 7 tons of coal.... That was when I tried to heat whole the house with just a Hitzer 50-93. Silly me!!! Lesson learned. I was dumb to think that a stove would do the same job as a furnace.The Hitzer did ok to it's credit. The warmest my house got was 66 degrees when it was -5 outside. Unacceptable to the spousal unit and me too.


Well... this is a case where wood is not a bad decision (very rare). You have 100 acres of hardwood lands at your disposal & you have a grandfather (who can still cut and load wood) which means your a very young man with the strength and testosterone must of us lost years ago :lol:

Enjoy these years of work and the company of family and as other have said... the coal will still be here when the strength & endurance are gone ;)

One thing id like to request is for you to please make a thread and post some photo's of your set up when she comes! you can title it "Brand New set up for Woodchuck furnace" and let us know your likes and dislikes over the next year or so :punk:
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Re: Can't decide

PostBy: cmk9180 On: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:48 am

dcrane:

Grandpa is 82 and I'm 33. He can and does cut wood. Not fast, but he's retired so speed isn't a necessity. Lol
The new unit is rated at 82% efficiency. We will see. I will get some pics up as soon as installation is complete. I'm still going to have a couple ton of coal on hand.
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