AF refurb or scrapout...to be determined...

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PostBy: DePippo79 On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:39 am

Off topic, but I would never get rid of my cast iron radiators. Best heat you can get. Plus they look cool. Matt
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40
Coal Size/Type: Stove, nut/anthracite

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PostBy: agcowvet On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:19 pm

Ya that is a cow we had several years ago. 1/4 Brown Swiss, 3/4 Jersey. What she may have lacked in production she made up for in attitude and stubbornness. :lol: Nah she really wasn't that bad. Just a house cow, raised a few calves and pigs with what we didn't use. What few Shorthorns I've worked with have been remarkably calm and easygoing, are yours this way or did I just luck out?

Been too busy with other stuff and haven't had a chance to do much more with the furnace since last posting, other than just cleaning it up more. Hopefully this week/weekend. Bonus is I found a small Lincoln mig for real short money that should make this job lots easier. Should be interesting...
agcowvet
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

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PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:16 pm

On Shorthorns (That i have owned!) most all are Remarkable calm. That is why I raise them.

have had plenty of others but always had good luck with that breed.

Get to work on the Refurb. the cold is coming! 8-) 8-)
Mark (PA)
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 1953 EFM SF-520 High Boy
Stove/Furnace Model: Fitzgibbon Boiler

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PostBy: agcowvet On: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:46 pm

Let's just say, I am no gas weldor! Either couldn't get it hot enough to do anything, or was melting holes (#2 and #4 tip, old Oxweld W200 aircraft torch.) I'll get that process eventually but I don't think on this project, unless on the internal baffle (thicker). Cutting torch works well but need a smaller tip for it also, great for bolts and heavier stuff but too hot for the sheetmetal patches. Works, but the cut edges are too hot--melt back together behind the cut sometimes. Technique of course has its part in this as well :oops:

Thank goodness for MIG, that has been going way better. Pictures later. I've been grinding to clean metal, welding cracks, grinding down welds (ha, grinding OUT welds too!) and welding patches over same. One spot is very very thin, may have a "fun time" dealing with that section. Will post a few pics of that as well, pre-repair-attempt.
agcowvet
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

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PostBy: agcowvet On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Pictures from this past Saturday's work. Haven't finished with the side seams yet, they look pretty awful at the moment as they are way over-filled; need to grind down (a LOT!!!) and put patches over, so it won't just crack thru the weld. Any pointers would be welcome.

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Side welds (they are ugly, and I just noticed there's a gap in one of 'em, still, oops!):

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

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PostBy: agcowvet On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:32 pm

Not looking too great. Got the thing apart further today and the lower reaches of the secondary heat exchanger are badly eroded. The outer surfaces are one thing, but inside the 'donut hole' as it were they are also eroded; doubt it will be easy or even possible to effectively repair this area. Too hard to reach in with the welder and doubt if there's enough metal left to stick anything to anyhow. I may try it, just to see, but am keeping an eye peeled for a better alternative. Some mild destructive testing with a 1 pound hammer, lightly wielded:

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The primary heat exchanger baffle was eaten away as previously noted. It was warped badly enough that it would not come out through the stoker mounting plate holes. I cut it in half to remove it. It did not cut like normal steel, nor did it look normal: crystallised? I don't know what changes happened to it but the edges act like normal mild steel. Weird.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

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PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:01 pm

:shock: curb alert!!! that unit needs recycling holy-ka-bearshit
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Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

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PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:42 pm

She's WAY rough my friend:( Not un-doable---but, way rough
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: AF refurb or scrapout...to be determined...

PostBy: agcowvet On: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:15 pm

Unless something changes this project is all done. Too much risk of another hole(s) popping up during the heating season, and cost of repairs is approaching the cost of a good used stove/furnace. If anyone would like parts, pieces, or the entire carcass PM me.
agcowvet
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

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PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:23 pm

Scrap it, I'm sure its worth a few bucks.
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PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:01 pm

Yeah man, nice attempt to salvage the ol girl, but I'm afraid its time....

:stretcher:
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

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PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:52 am

Could we please have a moment of silence.... :cry:
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Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

Re: AF refurb or scrapout...to be determined...

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:42 pm

Agcowvet, sent you a PM.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

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PostBy: McGiever On: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:05 pm

Look in the For Sale section here...couple forced air units recntly came up. ;)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: AF refurb or scrapout...to be determined...

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:14 pm

agcowvet wrote: If anyone would like parts, pieces, or the entire carcass PM me.


Scottscoaled wrote:ACV, stokers are a dime a dozen. Workable furnaces/boilers are less so. Call me before you scrap it.


Looks like it was far worse than it appeared in the first pictures. The stoker may still have some useable parts.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy