Syrian Conflict

Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: buffalo bob On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:21 am

i have to agree with sara palin on this ...let alla sort this out... then we can deal with whats left over.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:26 am

You betcha :) "Kill em all, let God sort em out"
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:29 am

No, no Fred. Let them kill EACH other and then sort it out. Stay out of foreign entanglements.

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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:52 am

Yep, better yet:)
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:56 pm

You know, I almost posted in this thread this morning. For some reason I backed out. But it seems I'm not the only one.

What I had originally typed out was this:

America should do nothing. If yet another middle eastern third world country wants to fight with itself and use guns, bombs, gas or nukes then why should we stop them? The Middle East has been tearing itself apart for thousands of years. THOUSANDS. Us dropping a few more bombs or rolling in there with tanks and machine guns isn't going to make an ant's hill of a difference. For *censored*'s sake we rolled into Iraq twice...TWICE between 1993 and 2001 and those *censored* are STILL at each others throats. Egypt has gone to war with itself twice in the past two years and Syria has been at war with itself twice in the past two years. It doesn't matter what we do because it's not going to make a difference. If America wants to do something; then it can get a bunch of natives from the region to build a wall around each and every middle eastern country that is at war. This way, the fighting can be contained and we can hope they wipe themselves out.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:18 pm

Good post.

How come you understand this while the genius's in Washington feel that we have to spend trillions to defend our vital national interests? Maybe their interests are different from ours.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:02 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:America should do nothing. If yet another middle eastern third world country wants to fight with itself and use guns, bombs, gas or nukes then why should we stop them?

From the NYTimes: JERUSALEM — Since reports surfaced of an apparent chemical attack outside Damascus, Israeli leaders have called for an American response, both on moral grounds and as a warning to Iran over its nuclear program .... Both Mr. Obama and his secretary of state, John Kerry, have mentioned Israel’s needs as one justification for an attack on Syria .... the main pro-Israel lobby, said Sunday that the group “won’t have comment for now.” … Part of the hesitation comes from Jerusalem’s ambivalence about what outcome it prefers in the Syrian civil war …. Ari Shavit, a columnist for the left-leaning daily newspaper Haaretz, said that Israel and others in the Middle East were being left with a “feeling of orphans,” wondering “if there is still a reliable parent in Washington who is really committed, who understands what’s going on and who is willing to act.”

Now that really frosts my ass. :mad: We are supposed to be a “reliable parent” “committed” to Israel "orphans" and “willing to act”? Get over it, folks, ALL countries are orphans in this world, and it is not Uncle Sam's job to look out for them. The Israelis are calling for an “American response”? If they’re so gung ho, how about an Israeli response paid for by Israelis? Obama and Kerry want us to intervene on behalf of “Israel’s needs”, while Israel is not even sure which side they want to prevail in the Syrian civil war?

How about we consider the needs of the USA for once? And please explain EXACTLY what we hope to accomplish, and how we think it will be accomplished by shooting a few hundred million dollars worth of missiles into Syria, at targets that have already been evacuated.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:00 pm

From the NYTimes: JERUSALEM — Since reports surfaced of an apparent chemical attack outside Damascus, Israeli leaders have called for an American response, both on moral grounds and as a warning to Iran over its nuclear program .... Both Mr. Obama and his secretary of state, John Kerry, have mentioned Israel’s needs as one justification for an attack on Syria .... the main pro-Israel lobby, said Sunday that the group “won’t have comment for now.” … Part of the hesitation comes from Jerusalem’s ambivalence about what outcome it prefers in the Syrian civil war …. Ari Shavit, a columnist for the left-leaning daily newspaper Haaretz, said that Israel and others in the Middle East were being left with a “feeling of orphans,” wondering “if there is still a reliable parent in Washington who is really committed, who understands what’s going on and who is willing to act.”

Now that really frosts my ass. :mad: We are supposed to be a “reliable parent” “committed” to Israel "orphans" and “willing to act”? Get over it, folks, ALL countries are orphans in this world, and it is not Uncle Sam's job to look out for them. The Israelis are calling for an “American response”? If they’re so gung ho, how about an Israeli response paid for by Israelis? Obama and Kerry want us to intervene on behalf of “Israel’s needs”, while Israel is not even sure which side they want to prevail in the Syrian civil war?

How about we consider the needs of the USA for once? And please explain EXACTLY what we hope to accomplish, and how we think it will be accomplished by shooting a few hundred million dollars worth of missiles into Syria, at targets that have already been evacuated.



For once my man I am right there with ya.

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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:16 pm

The real problem over there is ,at its root(no pun intended)....Trees! Or more accurately the lack of them. The poor *censored* cant get in outa the sun. And for a change, I agree with the "let em' fight it out themselves" sentiment and if the Israelis are so *censored* concerened ,let them clean up their own backyard!!!! :wtf: I have no real understanding of the hold the Israelis have on us :mad3: I think we should arm both sides untill they kill each other or figure out that you cant govern along religious lines, There are way to many versions of religion to fight over which one is right! AGAIN :wtf:
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:06 pm

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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:18 pm

I wish you would not do that. It makes me cringe too much when comparing to Obama.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:33 pm

:clap: Now instead of any further rhetoric , or criticism of anyone ; send your congressman an email expressing your wishes. There is no way this president will act contrary to the wishes of the majority .
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:37 pm

Ed.A wrote:The question remains, what would Assad gain by Gassing people? The war has been going on for 2yrs. He knows that by using Sarin he will be FuVking himself. This by according Pelosi and Kerry is a "Reformer".

I'm no Truther (trust ME) but c'mon!


On the other hand why would Obama say they have evidence they did? There is no benefit for him in this no matter which way you look at it. He's either going to be called Bush if he goes to war or Putin, the Iranians and the North Koreans are going to be pointing and laughing at him if he doesn't.
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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:45 pm

On the other hand why would Obama say they have evidence they did? There is no benefit for him in this no matter which way you look at it


Really Richard?? He has backed every Muslim Brotherhood led insurgency in the world. Why is this any different?

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Re: Syrian Conflict

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:48 pm

As I said earlier on, there is no point in having treaties, weapons bans, Geneva Convention, NATO the UN or anything else if you are not going to stand for what they say. I never liked the UN or NATO from the start & if no one else stands it would be the perfect time to exit. If the rogue nations of the world can start going unchecked then how long before we can expect chemical attacks right here at say sporting events or political rallies & the like.
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