Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:40 pm

Nothing in the constitution has anything to do with shoes or shirts.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:54 pm

Then stand by your guns :oops: Flyer, walk in there tall & proud with you gun rip up your permit as well because nothing in the Big C. mentions any stinking CWP, but I still believe that the ones running the fair have just as much right to put up their sign. They made a stand on what they believe is their right so now I guess it would be your turn to either walk on in with your gun or walk on by, if you choose to walk in let us know how it turns out. From experience I think it would be wiser to walk on by, I've stuck by my principles several times in the past & it somehow always costs me money. :mad:
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:55 pm

What it does have to do with is it is a privately put on FAIR by a private group of people that chose to have it gun free-- I'm sorry, I have my carry permit, but when I feel my WANTS supersede another private citizens-- maybe I need to take a good look at ME-This isn't about the Constitution---this is about ego's & false pride
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:15 pm

samhill wrote:Then stand by your guns :oops: Flyer, walk in there tall & proud with you gun rip up your permit as well because nothing in the Big C. mentions any stinking CWP, but I still believe that the ones running the fair have just as much right to put up their sign. They made a stand on what they believe is their right so now I guess it would be your turn to either walk on in with your gun or walk on by, if you choose to walk in let us know how it turns out. From experience I think it would be wiser to walk on by, I've stuck by my principles several times in the past & it somehow always costs me money. :mad:



And like I already stated I don't plan to attend. It is my right to take my patronage elsewhere as well. It turned out well for the Harrisburg sportsman's show.
If someone did walk in with one concealed. What do you think would happen? All they can legally do is ask them to leave if they were to find out. As long as there is no resistance and they leave willingly there is no crime. So I really don't understand your point.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:20 pm

freetown fred wrote:What it does have to do with is it is a privately put on FAIR by a private group of people that chose to have it gun free-- I'm sorry, I have my carry permit, but when I feel my WANTS supersede another private citizens-- maybe I need to take a good look at ME-This isn't about the Constitution---this is about ego's & false pride




No offense but I think it is about much more than ego and pride. I have had my time where I was glad and lucky to be armed.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:29 pm

Not sure if this is a back peddle or not but this was taken from their facebook page.

"All fellow legal gun carriers, I have just gotten off the phone with Mr. Barrett. Here is the latest and you will enjoy this. If you have a PTCF, you will be able to carry into the fairgrounds, this was a misunderstanding. He said he will be searching "backpacks". No patdowns will be done and he will not be asking to see permits due to the lines trying to enter the grounds. He stated to me that DHS sent 7 agents to discuss this with him and he needed to do something. He agrees this is a violation of gun owners rights. If you doubt anything that has been said here, call him yourself. The number was posted on page 1 of this forum. Be nice to him and don't accuse him of violations...this is where some people have screwed up. If you don't talk to him like civilized people then you are not going to do anything but hurt our rights to carry in the future. Taken from a forum"
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:27 am

Point being, when checked out, the media, as usual, had over-stated what was really going on. That is a good thing that the actual meaning came out. Interpretation is a dangerous thing! My post still stands as written though. Had I of gone to the fair & was real upset about the NO GUN statement, I PERSONALLY would of called & checked out the facts before over reacting & getting people riled up instead of relying on social media or depending on someone else doing it--just sayin
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:17 am

freetown fred wrote:Point being, when checked out, the media, as usual, had over-stated what was really going on. That is a good thing that the actual meaning came out. Interpretation is a dangerous thing! My post still stands as written though. Had I of gone to the fair & was real upset about the NO GUN statement, I PERSONALLY would of called & checked out the facts before over reacting & getting people riled up instead of relying on social media or depending on someone else doing it--just sayin



I honestly think it is a back peddle because of the attention it received. But I do not know. I have not received any replies from my emails sent as of today. And yes they were politely written and respectful. The original statement of no guns came from the local paper and local news stations not social media.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:20 am

Not being critical, just stating the reality of over reaction in so many things in life due to media involvement, or should I say--"uninvolvement" ;)
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:56 am

Good to see the "usual suspects" show up. What good would a gun topic be without Sam and his band of merry libs? :lol:

The important stuff we should be taking from this thread is this: opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one. Go or don't go, that is on you and a choice you have to make. I can think of about 100 things more fun then taking my family to a fair full of people, but then again I am surrounded by 2500+ people 5 days a week, so my days off are spent as far away from other people as I can get!! ;)

I don't spend my money with anti-gun establishments. Just like some people only buy American. It is my choice, and I stand by it. I wont bend or break for any reason. Of course, I could carry concealed and they most likely wont know. But then again, I would be spending my money on an anti-gun event and that wont happen. So I chose to walk on by. And anyone who isn't wearing a uniform and a badge isn't going to pat me down. Or check my wife's purse. Period. If I cant get in because I refuse a pat down, that is fine by me, but the first time a civilian attempts a pat down on me there are going to be serious issues. I don't ask for much, but keeping your hands off me is one of the things I demand.

The Atlanta Aquarium does pat downs and runs wands over everyone entering. They also check bags. A group of "security", which is most likely college kids with a 1 hour class, stands in a line and checks everyone. I walked up to them and told them I wont be patted down, and they cannot wand me due to my pacemaker/defibrillator. I have a card stating this and stating that wands drain the battery life. So what did the Atlanta Aquarium "security" do? Held their hands up and said, "We don't want to get sued sir, go ahead!" As a place of business, if you want these type of measures for security, by all means, have them. But pay real law enforcement to do it. If the Atlanta Aquarium would have chosen to disregard and wand me anyway, I would have sued the *censored* out of them.

All we can do is refuse to go and refuse to give them money. The all mighty dollar talks, just ask the Harrisburg Sportsman Show! Making up rules to bend to the liberals agenda did them so well the show collapsed right before their eyes.

So instead of going to the fair and having "tons of fun" surrounded by a bunch if people I don't know, what else can I do? Hmmm...I can think of a few things.

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:22 pm

Who's to say that guy with a permit and a side arm isn't there to kill a few innocent people?? Who's to say a maniac can't take the gun from you and kill you with it?? Question is.... Where do you draw a line with risk and safety??? How necessary is it that you carry a gun around to a public event such as a concert, an amusement park or the movies?? Oh that's right.. a guy killed a bunch of people at a movie.. How many innocent people woulda been killed in a movie theater by gun fire from trigger happy "2nd amendment supporters" hahaha.. These are my concerns..
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:17 pm

Well according to RW it's only cons that have weapons & permits so I guess it would be just as easy to say no cons allowed, problem solved. Must be easy to live in a perfect little mind set world. :roll:
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:23 pm

RW just controls his emotions and his environment. He does not go where he has no control and knows what his rights are etc. He is a dangerous man to you lemmings.

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Anything is possible...
A person could drive a semi into anything...
Does not require a gun...
But a person with a carry permit might just stop said semi...
A person with an evil intent will do whatever it takes...
Money talks, if you don't like the rules don't go...
If no money is to be made most private events will not happen again...
If the facts prove that events that allow permited gun holders are safer...
Gues what...
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:16 pm

Lightning wrote:Who's to say that guy with a permit and a side arm isn't there to kill a few innocent people?? Who's to say a maniac can't take the gun from you and kill you with it?? Question is.... Where do you draw a line with risk and safety??? How necessary is it that you carry a gun around to a public event such as a concert, an amusement park or the movies?? Oh that's right.. a guy killed a bunch of people at a movie.. How many innocent people woulda been killed in a movie theater by gun fire from trigger happy "2nd amendment supporters" hahaha.. These are my concerns..


Statistics I guess. How many violent crimes are committed by CCW holders and legal firearm carriers? A lot of the people I work with have committed some heinous crimes but maybe 10 of them have done it with a legally owned firearm. So I will take my chances in a room full of productive, law abiding, no criminal background gun toting citizens any day of the week.

As long as their are other people around me, it is necessary. If isn't for you, that is fine. It is your choice. When the wolf comes calling you will hide behind the armed citizen that just might save your a$$. Funny, I know a lot of "trigger happy 2nd Amendment supporters" and none of them have just pulled their guns out for the fun of it. You live in a fantasy world of candy canes and gum drops. I hope you enjoy it there.

samhill wrote:Well according to RW it's only cons that have weapons & permits so I guess it would be just as easy to say no cons allowed, problem solved. Must be easy to live in a perfect little mind set world. :roll:


This makes no sense. Cons don't have permits or carry legally. They carry stolen guns and car jack you at the red light, kidnap your wife at the mall, or shoot you in the face at a gas station hold up. Explain to me how a no guns allowed sign stops criminals, who are already carrying illegally, from carrying???

KLook wrote:RW just controls his emotions and his environment. He does not go where he has no control and knows what his rights are etc. He is a dangerous man to you lemmings.

Kevin


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