Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:38 pm

It's not just about the guns. This what the terrorist want, to make us live in fear. I would not want anyone searching my kids stroller or my wifes purse. Thankfully the fairs around me haven't got this bad yet. Another said day for individual rights. Matt
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:40 pm

Oh and another thing whats next supermarkets, malls, restuarants, etc.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:57 pm

RW, you mistook the jargon used for Liberals(libs) and Conservatives(cons) in Samhills comment. It still doesnt make a lot of sense in proper context though. ;)

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:39 pm

Sure it does Klook, RW blames everything on libs so if there is a lib only affair then there are no problems. Just trying to use the same logic, I'm not the one that started this thread in a panic about not being able to carry where it turns out you could legally, just a misunderstanding but it was all libs fault. Do you really think that only cons own & carry guns? Only thing I ever wanted was to close the loopholes that allow felons or just about anyone to buy guns, then in lies the problem, how does one know who is legal or illegal unless there is some sort of control with background checks. Granted some paranoid fool that is legal can lose control but the chances are a lot slimmer than a illegal owner that buys for just sinister purpose. But the bottom line of this is if you don't like a sign just don't go or better yet investigate & it all may be a misunderstanding as this was, either way someone has just as much right to say no guns as another has a right to carry where allowed.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:49 pm

Not in a public place Sam because it is open to ALL the public and why should I give up a right to make anti-gun people feel good about their false sense of security? If it is a private event, fine.

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:36 pm

samhill wrote:Sure it does Klook, RW blames everything on libs so if there is a lib only affair then there are no problems. Just trying to use the same logic, I'm not the one that started this thread in a panic about not being able to carry where it turns out you could legally, just a misunderstanding but it was all libs fault. Do you really think that only cons own & carry guns? Only thing I ever wanted was to close the loopholes that allow felons or just about anyone to buy guns, then in lies the problem, how does one know who is legal or illegal unless there is some sort of control with background checks. Granted some paranoid fool that is legal can lose control but the chances are a lot slimmer than a illegal owner that buys for just sinister purpose. But the bottom line of this is if you don't like a sign just don't go or better yet investigate & it all may be a misunderstanding as this was, either way someone has just as much right to say no guns as another has a right to carry where allowed.



I never blamed the liberals. You must be feeling guilty about belonging to that party. You are getting defensive. And I still believe they had all intentions of banning guns till the emails started pouring in. That was the intention to alert people to a entity stepping on the civil liberties. If we don't we will continue to get stepped on. Why is it Ok for the liberals to make noise about something they disagree with but conservatives are just nut cases when we do.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:49 pm

Klook, I don't know to this point what type of fair this is, if you have to pay to enter then it's subject to stipulations. They had a group of open carry people that insisted they had the right to rally in the Erie Public Square not long ago & they got fined, I think it's still going on court wise but they lost at least the first round. As I mentioned earlier I have been willing to stand for what I believe several times in the past, I turned out to be right but it still always cost me so being of limited means I soon learned to walk on by at times, found it to be the prudent thing to do.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:51 pm

I can understand that Sam, prudence that is. But as with all things, if you allow others to chip away at your ability to do things, you wake up one day and can't do anything.

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:54 pm

Flyer, it was RD that I referred to as putting the blame on libs as he always does. With you I was just trying to say that you were not the only side that had a right. It just seems that some can't see anything but their own point of view. No offense intended just voicing an opinion.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:57 pm

I cannot tell you how many people think playing any sport past high school or college maybe is a waste of time. People do not believe in going to bars and would ban them. Smoking, drinking, sex, watercraft, anything that is fun to some is just an annoyance and should be banned by other people. Racing of any sort comes to mind. Stand up or shut up when they take your fun away.

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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:07 pm

Klook, in most of my cases I ended up being the only one willing to stand out of many & I ended up taking the brunt of the crap while everyone else sits back & then wins when I do, been down the road too often so now basically take care of my own & the hell with others that are all talk & no action.
Don't know where your coming from with that Klook, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else what difference does it make what you do? Smoking in enclosed places can hurt, dirt bikes & quads on someone else's property hurts, I've done probably more than my share of it all except smoking (never could get into that) never really had any problem except maybe the sex part :lol: on occasion I was willing but it just wasn't meant to be. :mad: Learned to just move on with that as well, there always seemed to be another opportunity. :D
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:09 pm

samhill wrote:Flyer, it was RD that I referred to as putting the blame on libs as he always does. With you I was just trying to say that you were not the only side that had a right. It just seems that some can't see anything but their own point of view. No offense intended just voicing an opinion.



You are correct both sides have a rights so if people don't like other people being armed for their own protection then those people that don't like it also have a right to not attend. No offense taken. Your opinion is protected in the constitution just like my right to carry. You have every right to voice it .
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:08 am

Believe it or not Flyer I also have a CCP & do carry on occasion, if there is a place that prohibits it I either don't carry there or don't go. For some reason it's not that hard of a decision for me to make, if I insisted on carrying or not going then I could never renew my permit since I can't carry in that big public building that I have to go into for my permit, kind of a catch22.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:31 am

samhill wrote:Believe it or not Flyer I also have a CCP & do carry on occasion, if there is a place that prohibits it I either don't carry there or don't go. For some reason it's not that hard of a decision for me to make, if I insisted on carrying or not going then I could never renew my permit since I can't carry in that big public building that I have to go into for my permit, kind of a catch22.



Samhill I know from past posts that you have a CCW. That is my surprise of why you don't seem to get the reasoning behind my and others protest. And the big public building is required to have a lock box for you at the entrance for your firearm.
BTW the fair decision was a back peddle after tremendous support for upholding the 2nd amendment and protests from the people. So my post was not without merit. If not for people speaking out against their decisions we would have lost a long time ago. It seems the support for our constitution and gun rights were much larger than they had expected.
I sometimes do not carry. But I do not like going to places where only the criminals are carrying the weapons and they post signs to advertise the fact. When they make it illegal for someone to try to rob or carjack you in front of a supermarket with your 18 month old child in the back and criminals no longer do it, I may feel I no longer need to carry everywhere.
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Re: Guns not allowed at Bloomsburg Fair

PostBy: Rwalker On: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:30 pm

samhill wrote:Flyer, it was RD that I referred to as putting the blame on libs as he always does. With you I was just trying to say that you were not the only side that had a right. It just seems that some can't see anything but their own point of view. No offense intended just voicing an opinion.


My definition of con and Sam's are different. A con in my book is convict. A conservative is a conservative. I am more of a Constitutionalist then anything else.

Absolutely I blame the liberal witch hunt. In my soon to be 36 years on this planet, I do not recall a Republican president trying to take my guns. I remember a few Democratic ones. Bill Clinton and now Obama come to mind. They hate guns, they hate our rights to own guns, and they want to take them. Communists don't like armed citizens. It scares the hell out of them. Plus it earns them the sheep vote. Urban areas are full of sheep, and criminals. Neither of them like armed citizens either.

I will continue to carry everywhere I go.
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