Richard S. wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+ ... 20&bih=988
LsFarm wrote:Ok, lets see. An engine for an airliner has several shafts, titanium, and huge titanium fan-wheels, steel gears, pumps, starters generators etc, etc.. these are virtually indestructable.
The central mass of an airliner fuselage is aluminum.. and not concentrated it is 200 feet long,
I'm talking about the connection between the wings.
Think of a bullet, lets say a 180grain 30 caliber copper jacketed bullet.. it's mass is concentrated in a single lump.. it is capable of pennetrating a lot of steel plate, a tree, etc. Take the same 180 grains of copper, make a 5"x5" sheet out of it, [roll it thin] and to the same with the lead core of the bullet.. put these thin, fragile sheets of metal that are very lethal at 3100fps when fired from a rifle, and try to do damage with the thin sheets to anything, even if you could enclose them in a vessel and move the sheets at 3100fps, they would not do much if any damage when hitting a similar target.. the mass is too spread out..
There is two variables here, speed and mass. As either increases so does the amount of damage it can do. A .22 bullet may not go through a cinder block wall but a train traveling at .1 MPH will.
First: speed and mass.
The concentrated mass of the engines will penetrate a concrete wall where the greater mass, but much less concentrated mass of the fuselage, wings tail etc will merely crumple.. just like cars are now designed with crumple zones to absorb the inertia of impact. A plane's wings and fuselage are roughly 95% aluminum.. only engines, landing gear, hydralic pumps and lines are made of steel or harder metals..
There should have been landing gear struts, brake parts, engine cores and a tail [empanage] remaining and recoverable. They are not there.
Just like the missing video tapes from all the surrounding stores, parking lots, etc, why not show their evidence ?? Even careful examination of the one video doesn't show the top of the tail of a 757, and it should be clearly in view.
What has been done, is a very carefully crafted and edited version of bits of truth, ignoring other glaring facts and witnesses, and since it was 'on the news' it has to be true, right??
I was home, watching the TV when the towers were hit. There were ON CNN firefighters interviewed, there were police interviewed, and while being recorded, there were explosions in the background, violent enough to make the firefighters flinch, and duck, yet those videos are gone,, gone that afternoon, I saw them several times before and just after the towers went down. Now they are gone.. very strange, and I don't believe it is an accident either.
We all get conditioned to 'believe' the news.. somehow we want to believe that we are not being lied to by the media.. but if we just look past the present and look back, to all the other lies we had been fed and believed.. like the Gulf of Tonkin, which started or was the excuse for the Vietnam war and ?? 50,000 US soldiers dead.. McNamara told us publicly, years later that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened..
Just take that feeling and knowledge of being lied to , manipulated, and bring it to this discussion. We are being lied to , manipulated with emotion, cherry-picked bits of video and intentionally not allowed to see contradictory information.. all to guide us to believe the media's version.
I don't want to believe we live in a country that will lie, manipulate, kill, steal etc to and from it's citizens, but we are here, and while for some, it's just easier to 'go with the flow'.. aka be a lemming.. but I don't like being a lemming.