samhill wrote:As far as there not being a large section of tail or anything else for that matter, how many crashes have there ever been at as high a speed as possible into a solid object? That's why I posted about the crash near Pittsburgh, no tail section & the engines were reduced to rubble & that was a smaller jet (I believe) & going slower coming in for a landing, in any event there was not much at all left. Normally any crash is at least attempted to be avoided & not full speed into an immoveable object.
In virtually EVERY crash there are parts, pieces and sections of the plane and engine that survive. ALL parts on an airplane have part numbers. Read up on flight 191 out in Iowa, they recovered the #2 engine fan about a year or two later in a farmer's field, and from the part numbers, discovered and traced the cause of the engine failure.
There have been two or three total, catastrophic crashes of Boing 737's, they had a wierd propblem with their rudder hydraulic controls, it would do a full 'hard-over' that was not controllable by the pilot..
One going into Colorado springs, and a better known one landing at Pittsburg, crashed 5-10 miles east of the Airport. The pilots lost control of the plane and it went virtually straight in. a near vertical crash.. yet they found engines, and parts of the hydraulic system to trace the cause of the loss of control..
NONE of this careful, meticulous work was done at the Pentagon, no confirming the plane registration, ownership etc etc.. why?? because the 'story' was the 'proof' any thing else would disprove 'the story'.
OK, the towers, again. WHY was there NO investigation of the steel?? any of the remains of the building's structure ?? Where is the archive of samples of the steel, the fire insulation, the failed rivets,, ANYTHING to back up and prove or support the theory that the 'paid' engineers published about the cause of the collapse ??
Why have steel structures all over the world burned for DAYS and not collapsed, not one imploded tower, not one sagging 'truss' or beam that pulled rivets or sheared rivets, pulled in other steel parts and caused a progressive collapse ?????????
Because the 'explanation' by the 'not-paid' experts is all just a 'story'.. the since it is called the 'official' story, it is believed..
The building collapse should have been thoroughly investigated, and there should be samples of the steel, the melted puddles that were reported, but never saved, or publicly shown stored for metallurgical analysis, Just like the TWA flight 800, just like virtually every other building collapse.
So, what was the construction method and design of the third building: Building 7, that mysteriously was vacant, even though it held the emergency control room and bomb shelter for the Mayor of the city.. VACANT.. all morning and day... and it had a little wisp of smoke,, and then, collapsed from the center of the roof inward [seen on remaining videos] all a near perfect implosion into the building's footprint or basement.. another coincidence ??
How many coincidences does it take to make you start to scratch your head and say ' REALLY ?? '
OK, remember the collapse of the balcony during a party in a building in I think St Louis ?? about 20 years ago ?? That got so much investigation it had it's own show on 'history' or A&E. a THOROUGH investigation. NOT a bunch of unsubstantiated theory, but proof with parts and pieces to show the actual parts that failed.. WHERE is this PROOF for the collapse of the towers ?? GONE, hidden and disposed of. Never seen by an engineer or metallurgical chemist or engineer..
OK my fingers are tired. I guess if you like living with wool pulled over your eyes, then that is your 'comfort zone'' enjoy it.