Flight 93 Responders

Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:42 am

samhill wrote:I found this to be a good read, basically the buildings were made as cheaply & quickly as possible using methods that were new. For all intents it was a prefab building using different suppliers for everything from steel to fabrication, even the concrete floors were prefabbed slabs as I had said earlier & was told they were poured. There were also many modifications which cut floors & installed additional stairways between some floors but everything went thru the series of center support from top to bottom & material was decreased at different levels going up. I just wonder now if this method was used in any other buildings & if they are being inspected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_o ... ade_Center


...I found it to be a good read as well.
what I found even more interesting was the reference page .!
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:05 am

even the concrete floors were prefabbed slabs as I had said earlier & was told they were poured.


I did not see that in that link.

You can see them pouring concrete at 11:52 in this video.


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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:25 am

it is very obvious the pre fabbed sections of flooring is the steel deck which they pour concrete over.... at 10:24 you can see them tying rebar for the floors concrete
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:38 pm

Richard S. wrote:
grumpy wrote:how did this happen...


Because news reporters never jump to conclusions and confirm what they are reporting.


Very true, however both the BBC and CNN and Fox reported this, the question is where did they get the report from.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:45 pm

grumpy wrote:
Richard S. wrote:
grumpy wrote:how did this happen...


Because news reporters never jump to conclusions and confirm what they are reporting.


Very true, however both the BBC and CNN and Fox reported this, the question is where did they get the report from.



obviously NOT from Jane Stanley....( who was looking at WT 7)
... can't help but wonder why they lost the feed.
.... probably just another fluke
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:21 pm

You may be right about the floors, I found reference to both & the only thing they had in common was that it was a special light weight concrete but that is rebar tying going on. A list of materials I found lists 425K of concrete but that is for the entire complex & another states the floors were 4" of concrete which is too thin for any slabs that I ever put in. Then still another I found stated that very few concrete buckets were there & the floors were going up at too fast of a rate, I'm sure someone knows for sure but nothing seems to be concrete :oops: . In any event the towers are down now & it's kind of amusing that the so called airplane strike results for a large plane were in the building, found this to be with every mention of it. It's the norm for who ever does the testing to keep copies as well, we did repairs that went back to the 1800s & were always able to get original prints from different sources. :idea:
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:53 pm

Well Sam, it's just a minor point and has nothing to do with the big picture, so no big deal.. People believe the official story because they don't know the official story. Once you learn the official story you quickly realize it cannot be true. And learning that is not easy and takes a hell of a lot of time.

You see Sam, I have never been a conspiracy guy, although I was in NYC when 911 happened once I went home I never gave it another thought. Then one day around 2006 I happen to stumble across a video called The Secret Evil of 911. I thought to myself what the heck is this, so I took a look at it. When it was over I thought what BS this is.

But it did interest me so I started to look around to prove this video to be wrong. It was after all one crazy story which could not be true. But the more I look the more it seemed that it very well could be true. It was at that point I became obsessed with finding out what really happened. It took about a year before I changed my mind and began to believe we were lied to.

As I learned more it became obvious the official story was pure BS. The rest is history, people smarter then me began to see that as well and so the truth movement was borne, and to this day it grows, every day all around the world.

Secret evil of 911 is below,I believe it was one of the first ever made, just about everything in the second half of that video has come to pass, the wars, ect..


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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:11 pm

good video grumpy...
hopefully more ppl see it....and for what it was.
No ones running round with theories here.
and a little scary the 'look at the future' part...makes me wonder...
footage ive never seen before....just when u think youve seen it all...
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:29 pm

Rigar wrote:good video grumpy...
hopefully more ppl see it....and for what it was.
No ones running round with theories here.
and a little scary the 'look at the future' part...makes me wonder...
footage ive never seen before....just when u think youve seen it all...


Thanks Rigar, just trying to get the info out there, don't want people to listen to me, I want them to go find out for themselves. Best part of that video was the sound track..lol
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:57 am

I am not sure what I believe after this thread. I still think there were no pre planted explosives used. But my real lack of interest is because this will change nothing anyway. Bush was a dirtbag politician along with Cheney,( aren't they all ) I still think Obama is worse at least Bush loved his country but his greed is bigger. Point is even if we get definitive proof that this was planned. What will happen? Nothing! No one will go to jail. The pussified populace will sit back and get their handouts and be happy. Which by the way is the reason the govt takes your money and hands it out to someone else who doesn't want to work. They need supporters.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:37 pm

Flyer5 wrote: at least Bush loved his country


He loved his country like OJ loved Nicole....
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:45 pm

LOL. Half of you are now on a list. I assume I was ALREADY on one. :D

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/358624

The FBI is instructing local police departments and "communities against terrorism" to consider anyone who harbors "conspiracy theories" about 9/11 to be a potential terrorist, in a circular released to local police departments.

A newly released national poll shows that 48% of Americans either have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, or do not believe it at all.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:19 pm

With these items being also on the list, the total of us suspected of being terrorists is well more than 48%.

"libertarian philosophies," "Second Amendment-oriented views," interest in "self-sufficiency," "fears of Big Brother or big government," and "Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties."


If thoughts such as these now criminalize the majority of Americans, then how on earth can we be considered to be free? Our very government is showing some serious signs of paranoia.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:28 pm

:clap: :partyhat: Hi Big Brother .
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:48 pm

We're not really free, we have an illusion of freedom, and an illusion of choice when we vote.

Yes they are paranoid because the people are waking up, slowly but they are, what was it 48% don't buy 911, Like I said anyone who looks at the info comes to that end.
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