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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:30 pm

According to the principals of ground effect, an airliner would need to be at around a 100 feet above the ground, furthermore ground effect actually increases lift of the wings AND enables it to go even faster...

I'm also very confident that a jet liner put into a dive from 10000 feet at full throttle would exceed mach 1 at which point the sonic shock wave would cause catastrophic structural failure and it would then disintegrate. From 5000 feet I'm thinking over 600 mph.

That's just my opinion. I've got nothing concrete to back it up :D I wouldn't try it lol...
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:22 pm

Seemed to work fairly well for the Kama Kazies & those were armored ships, that section of the Pentagon was original & not all that strong. The thing that always struck me funny was that when told Bush went right on reading to those kids & he was vulnerable as hell & Chaney got his butt to safety & to hell with the chief. always smelt a bit to me when it was well known where he would be & there were planes unaccounted for. :shock:
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:24 pm

samhill wrote:Seemed to work fairly well for the Kama Kazies & those were armored ships, that section of the Pentagon was original & not all that strong.


That section of the Pentagon was newly renovated and made bomb proof.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Could be but from what I was told that section wasn't yet completed & that was the reason so few in the building were killed & injured. Could be all the new windows & sprinkler system was done but it was not yet finished inside, from what I heard.
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Rwalker On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:33 pm

We try to take the motorcycle there once a year. Very humbling place... :(
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:57 pm

samhill wrote:Could be but from what I was told that section wasn't yet completed & that was the reason so few in the building were killed & injured. Could be all the new windows & sprinkler system was done but it was not yet finished inside, from what I heard.


That is correct and part of the puzzle, why would Hani who was said unable to fly a small Cessna be able to execute a sharp turn and drop down to hit that part of the building when he could have just flown strait into it on the other side where Rumsfeld office was and a full staff at work.



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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Why didn't even one of the eyewitnesses that were on the busy highway that the object flew over say it was anything other than a plane? Why were there light poles sheared off in the parking area & where did all of the bodies found inside come from most of which were ID'ed by DNA?
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:18 pm

Grumpy you've seen this picture before, why would you bother with that drivel?

http://idata.over-blog.com/1/67/15/03/1 ... 03886.jpeg
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:33 pm

I'v seen them all, still have not seen any evidence of a 757 and I know what a crash site looks like , I have been to one. Where is ANY wreckage in that photo?
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:37 pm

samhill wrote:Why didn't even one of the eyewitnesses that were on the busy highway that the object flew over say it was anything other than a plane? Why were there light poles sheared off in the parking area & where did all of the bodies found inside come from most of which were ID'ed by DNA?

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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: grumpy On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:48 pm

He could not believe a plane crashed there, he saw nothing.

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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:00 pm

Here are some pics from a crash scene near the Pittsburgh airport, they are a little small but you won't see many large parts, they just aren't made to survive impacts like that. http://www3.gendisasters.com/pennsylvan ... s-sep-1994
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:07 pm

grumpy wrote:I'v seen them all, still have not seen any evidence of a 757 and I know what a crash site looks like , I have been to one. Where is ANY wreckage in that photo?


There isn't any I'm aware of but there is certainly tons of pictures with plane parts. I found a site that has solved this riddle, it was a missile strike, Here is their proof :lol: :

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... 911_90.htm
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:10 pm

samhill wrote:Here are some pics from a crash scene near the Pittsburgh airport, they are a little small but you won't see many large parts, they just aren't made to survive impacts like that. http://www3.gendisasters.com/pennsylvan ... s-sep-1994


That's not the crash I was referring too. As I said before if there one thing that makes absolutely no sense with these conspiracy theories is flight 93. Seriously, why would you try and fake it when you could just fly a real plane into the ground?
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Re: Flight 93

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:54 pm

As I said to begin with Richard, there was nothing fake about Flight 93 it went down in a recently backfilled strip mine the bodies were real, my wife spent two weeks there trying to match body parts. The crash site proper is still off limits to this day you can look from a distance but stuff still gets washed off & gets discovered.
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