Low water pressure.....

Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: nortcan On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:59 pm

Don't forget this when adjusting the air in the tank, the tank SHOULD be completly empty, easier to drain with a drain valve at the bottom of the tank, usually at the tank outlet tee. Before emptying the tank you must see at what pressure the pump cycle ON Ex: 30 Lbs.
Fill the tank with air and check if water still coming out. When no more water comes out fill the tank with ait to usually 2/3 Lbs less than the pump starting on pressure. If starting at 30 you must put about 27/28 Lbs in the tank. Usually you have about 20 Lbs differential between the on and off cycles. Don't hesitate to ask if you want to know how to adjust the control box start/stop positions. Many peoples make their water pumps work harder than supposed to just from a bad control box adjustment.
In some aggressive water, using galvanized pipes tend to clog very fast, so when removing the nipple under the control box if you see it is clogged/rusted just replace it with a brass one 1/4" X 3", not expensive and may help.
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:06 pm

Good point Nortcan, if the kick on setting is lower than the air pressure in the bladder (before any water is added to the tank) then all of the water will get pushed out of the tank before the pump starts (after water is added to the tank). Is that right? :?
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:28 pm

Crap IOF--don't jump into PANIC MODE quite yet ;)
I'm On Fire wrote:
Lightning wrote:You may or may not know this, might be of help to others also. Here's how I test air pressure in the tank bladder. Given that bladder tanks I've delt with come pre charged around 28 pounds psi.

First cut the power to the well pump. Then open a faucet. When the water stops running, measure the air pressure on the bladder with a tire gauge. It should be 28 pounds with NO water pressure. If not, pump it up. If it won't hold air pressure you know the bladder is shot.

If it does hold air pressure, close the faucet that was left open and restore power to the pump to fill the tank. When the pump shuts off, measure the air pressure again. It should now be whatever yer high limit is set at. I have mine set at about 55 pounds.


Thanks. That's a lot easier than what I normally do. Which is shut power off. Drain the entire system, check pressure, refill pressure, refill system, check pressure.

Fred, no I have not asked any of my neighbors about having the same problem. I should ask around though.
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:35 pm

I'm just sick of fixing or replacing plumbing things in this house. Last month I had to replace the flushometer in the toilet.

So, after calming down today I went to the kitchen sink and washing machine. Took both apart. The screen in the faucet on the sink was clogged solid; to be honest I didn't even know the kitchen sink had a screen. I cleaned it and all is good. Same thing with the washer. The cold side seemed to be worse than the hot side. But I suspect all the sediment is sitting on the bottom of the hot water heater.

So, I think before I tear the holding tank out and strap explosives to it I'm going to install a sediment filter. I'm planning on checking the tanks' pressure anyway so I'll have the water shut off.
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:22 pm

IOF, I completely drain my hot water heater every fall--turn off power to heater & pump--hook hose to bottom of heater & run it outside & let it drain--hopefully you have a shut-off valve between bladder & hot water tank--shut that off
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:30 pm

freetown fred wrote:IOF, I completely drain my hot water heater every fall--


That is something not enough people do and this will add several years and efficiency to your hot water heater. Another thing is to replace the elements every 3 to 4 years.(electric water heater) They tend to corrode or build up a coating that restricts their purpose. And they are very inexpensive compared to what they can do to your electric bill. ;)
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:55 pm

You can build a brand new house and still have terrible water. In fact, many people do just that. Granite counter tops but no water treatment system. Glad you are getting it sorted out.
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:20 pm

Did my pressure tank in '08, 4 years after it killed my first pump. It's a wonder the pump still works. I'd better shut up now ... and knock on wood! :| It's already forming cancer spots in the paint ....

The original tank was a very small Well-X-Trol, which is about the best you can get. I replaced it with a Lowe's special (can't even remember the name ...) because it was cheap,and double the size. Almost 5 years to the day and still going.

I have my pressures set at 28/68 to extend the pump life. Those damn things are pricey .... and when they fail in January with 2 feet of snow on the ground, REAL REAL REAL damn expensive when someone does it for you! :shock:



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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:35 pm

Good gawd smitty, I cant fathom why anything would develop Rust down thier ! toothy
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Re: Low water pressure.....

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:33 am

Hey Smitty, is it a water softner bu-pass we can see at the back? What happened to it??? :roll:
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