"Germany's Energy Poverty"

Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:49 pm

They got some of that 'Good Engineering' here on The Cape...
The Wellfleet Audubon wants to put up a...
Wind Turbine...
You Know the things that can kill a few birds and bats...
Even though they don't kill them by the bus load...
Still MA Audubon dumb idea...
They got their start to 'help the birds'...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Audubon_Society
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:18 am

Atlas Shrugged is coming true. Maybe John Galt is camping out in a valley somewhere around here.
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:26 am

Pacowy,I agree that the shale gas technology is a giant step forward and has come a long way ,however, I can't think it is a full triumph of engineering when local folks still have to worry about lighting off their spigots and continue to be concerned about the water they are drinking.We almost got it right but the smell of money cut short the last necessary steps which involves the safety of the people. Not world class just yet. Mike
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: blrman07 On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:04 am

Just who is John Gault?
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:12 am

stovepipemike wrote: I can't think it is a full triumph of engineering when local folks still have to worry about lighting off their spigots and continue to be concerned about the water they are drinking.


Every area where this has occurred has had historical problems with this issue before fracking, it's possible the fracking has exacerbated the issue but it didn't create the issue. There is place in NY called "Burning Springs" and that name was translated from the Indian name, how is it you think it got that name? Here is the director of Gasland admitting to knowing about historical documentation dating back to the 30's in the area he filmed the burning water but that was "irrelevant" in his words.



While there has been some contaminated wells overall studies have shown that this is safe process, most of the pollution is surface pollution e.g. where the holding ponds have broken and the main concern there is high levels of salt . If you were to throw out all regulations and allowed a company that had no environmental concerns at all to drill their economic interests dictate that that they protect the ground water supply. They don't want ground water infiltrating their well or the fracking fluid exfiltrating the well.
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:10 am

There are some problems with ground water which could be expected, no big deal if it doesn't affect your water, a real big deal if it does. I worry more about long term problems with what they leave in the ground & naturally the gas industry says they did a study & found no problems. The big thing is there is only going to be a temp. price drop until they start exporting on a large scale, being everything is a global market.
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: DennisH On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:00 pm

I will be visiting Germany before too long. Went to high school there at a German school in 1971-72. Will ask my family, with whom I've been in touch over the years and visited many times, how things really are with electricity generation.
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Re: "Germany's Energy Poverty"

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:24 pm

The final insult to the greenies is that nuclear and natural gas has done far far more to lower carbon emission than all the windmills and solar panels.
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