Home security

Re: Home security

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:36 pm

As an animal lover I have to agree with you. Too many irresponsible pet owners.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:32 am

Kevin, I'm sorry--what was the original question--- :clap: toothy ---Dude, you guys are killin me :help: :flush:
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Re: Home security

PostBy: dcrane On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:07 am

Motion SpotLights, Security Warning Signs and these... (I had the lighting already... the rest cost me a total of $14.00, no maintenance, low cost, no allergy problems, and I prefer not to have strangers roaming around my house when I'm not their).
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Re: Home security

PostBy: Rigar On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:45 am

freetown fred wrote:Kevin, I'm sorry--what was the original question--- :clap: toothy ---Dude, you guys are killin me :help: :flush:



....lmao !
we ve seemed to gotten off topic.....that NEVER happens here!...:)

klook....do you travel extensively?...Simplisafe allows you to monitor your house from ur smartphone...their service is cellular tho...(depending on ur area service may be poor?)
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Re: Home security

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:08 am

I've got one. We never use it. It's a pain in the ass. As others have said its all about response time. We've got the loud dogs and a 40 cal. deterrant. The best part of any security system is the sign in the yard. Oh and also have a gun safe. Everything else I figure is easily replaceable with insurance.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: Rigar On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:31 am

coalkirk wrote:I've got one. We never use it. It's a pain in the ass. As others have said its all about response time. We've got the loud dogs and a 40 cal. deterrant. The best part of any security system is the sign in the yard. Oh and also have a gun safe. Everything else I figure is easily replaceable with insurance.




...the sign is a good point.
the misses is an insurance underwriter....apparently there are studies on that....and the sign alone is an excellent deterrant ( makes the crooks think twice ?)
...u owe it to urself to get a good gun safe too
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Re: Home security

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:34 am

We considered getting one also, but after talking to a few friends who have them, complain about them and never use them we decided against it. I do have the fake sign in the yard indicating we have one hoping the thieves can read!

We have always had a dog to alert us when we are home, the dog works better than our doorbell. Maybe the barking dog would scare them away if we weren't home, but the barking could just be a show for when we are there. Our neighbors dog barks like crazy if they are there, but a couple times i was taking care of their house while they were away and found the dog sleeping on the bed upon entering the house. I made some noise out in the hallway once to see its reaction and it came slinking out of the bedroom not barking at all. I believe it thought it was in trouble for being on the bed! :lol:

Also i have a couple wireless IP outdoor cameras that have an alarm feature to take a pic when motion is detected and emails the pics to me. Mostly in case somebody is messing around the detached garage at night. Stuff I really want to keep around is in a safe, other stuff could be replaced.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:48 am

As an animal lover I have to agree with you. Too many irresponsible pet owners.
Finally, someone serious! :D :roll:

Laugh it up Fred, I know this is payback for not guarding my opinion before. :|

I've got one. We never use it. It's a pain in the ass. As others have said its all about response time. We've got the loud dogs and a 40 cal. deterrant. The best part of any security system is the sign in the yard. Oh and also have a gun safe. Everything else I figure is easily replaceable with insurance.


This is what I'm looking for, and I can agree with the gun safe. But I don't want to move it and I just moved here and I might move again in a couple years. Hard enough moving all our stuff.

We considered getting one also, but after talking to a few friends who have them, complain about them and never use them we decided against it. I do have the fake sign in the yard indicating we have one hoping the thieves can read!

We have always had a dog to alert us when we are home, the dog works better than our doorbell. Maybe the barking dog would scare them away if we weren't home, but the barking could just be a show for when we are there. Our neighbors dog barks like crazy if they are there, but a couple times i was taking care of their house while they were away and found the dog sleeping on the bed upon entering the house. I made some noise out in the hallway once to see its reaction and it came slinking out of the bedroom not barking at all. I believe it thought it was in trouble for being on the bed! :lol:

Also i have a couple wireless IP outdoor cameras that have an alarm feature to take a pic when motion is detected and emails the pics to me. Mostly in case somebody is messing around the detached garage at night. Stuff I really want to keep around is in a safe, other stuff could be replaced.


And this...what did they not like? You get built in smoke and co detectors and cameras that send to your cell phones and if you use door and window alarms you get to know when one is opened. I would not use motion sensors maybe. The last house I built(in my avatar) had one installed and they have never had a false alarm. Just about 1 years in. They have motion sensors.

Just looking for facts about why they don't work and why people don't use them after they buy them.

Kevin
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Re: Home security

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:48 am

Somebody had an extra value CRABBY PATTY meal ....Twice! :D
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Re: Home security

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:53 am

Somebody had an extra value CRABBY PATTY meal ....Twice! :D


Next time I will post under the Jokes and Humor section.

Kevin :P

And I was being a little sassy with the "oh come on " comment. I enjoy being made sport of in good fun.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: Rigar On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:08 am

klook
i I know a few people that have them (systems)
...pay monthly for monitoring etc...
and it boils down to this:
the first deterrent is the sign in the yard- which they think is 'advertising' they have something of value (which they are safe guarding)... so they get rid of it... or don't like moving it when they mow etc...
secondly.. you have to set the system when you leave the house... and deactivate it when you come home... and they admit when they just run to the store or no they will only be gone for a short time they do not bother (activating it)
... I would assume that's the biggest pita...go figure
... as far as "not using it" ?...well that may simply be a matter of habit.
if its on and activated-its in use. If they never get robbed-did it work?...idk
...sorta like having insurance and never making a claim...lol
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Re: Home security

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:27 am

KLook wrote:And this...what did they not like?


Couple things they mentioned...

Phone lines in our area tend to have some 'noise' on them and the neighbors across the street have had issues with it working correctly because of that. Verizon has had to hook up a couple different pairs for them, they didn't bother to call after the last issue cropped up and just cancelled it.

Other neighbors had a couple touchy sensors that would false alarm and had to be swapped out. Response time out here ran about 15 - 20 minutes. Also, they are elderly and technology challenged and couldn't get the hang of using it.

Another had their windows open a lot through the year for fresh air and then having to either not bother setting the alarm or closing them up before going out to the store or to eat to they could set it.

We decided it just wasn't for us at this point.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:43 am

Thanks Rigar, as far as arming and disarming, most systems come with a key fob that is as easy as your garage door. What is the pain in the ass? Maybe most systems are wired in as they are more secure then wireless? My brother warned about savvy thieves that could "jam" the wireless signal. Of steal my wireless code with a receiver and just walk on in. All things to consider I guess.
We came home the other day after 9 or 10 hrs. away and our garage door was up. I thought I closed it....maybe not. A system would have alerted me or at least protected the house even with the open door. Redundancy to make up for my stupidity. I like gadgets so I am looking for any excuse to not spend the money.
And a dog is not even a consideration. Not with my new bamboo floors and having to cover up/tear out half the house subfloors because the previous owner had dogs and they pissed on every door casing and chair leg and right in the middle of the floors even. Absolutely disgusting. And that is what I mean by "dog owners". I am probably going to retrim the doors even as I know the dogs peed all over them. We fight like hell to keep mice, squirrels, and bugs out of our abodes and then bring the same critters right in and let them "live" in our space, fleas and ticks and all. Crazy. My neighbors dogs bark at ANY sound. Very annoying. I am seeking solutions if any of you have some clever ones. PM me.

Kevin

Just saw your titleist1, thanks. I understand those and the only one that caught my attention is open windows. We might have open windows this fall but most of the year here we would not. That is a seasonal thing and most new systems allow you to disable certain sensors in the system. Then you would be relying on motion or camera's for security. I would like to avoid motion I think. That is what creates most false alarms I think. They have probably improved somewhat.
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Re: Home security

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:49 am

I used to install for a # of different alarm systems, they are all pretty much the same installs are cheap to reasonable since they make their money on monthly fees & yes upgrades like any electronics. Signs just advertise what system is there & a good thief upgrades as well & know that you think your house is worth robbing, the best sign is a "Beware of Dog". In my area response time is anywhere on the same day is fast so there is no need, neighbors look out for each other & we almost all have dogs & are all responsible caring owners. Dogs can sense a persons intent from far off, could be from fear of them, untrustworthiness, a animal hater or simply just an AH, dogs are smart & will give more loyalty & love than most humans. ;)
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Re: Home security

PostBy: Davian On: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:03 am

~reads thread~

Yeah, you should get a dog.
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