Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: LDPosse On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:20 pm

SMITTY wrote:Good Christ LD! I wouldn't want your oil bill after looking at that second pic! 2 oil burners!! I go thru a gallon per hour with just ONE. :shock: :o :shock:


LOL the last time I burned oil was nov 2011. It's been all coal heat since then. My house is a side by side duplex. When I moved in here in 2006, there were already 2 oil tanks, but 1 boiler. I separated the tanks, and installed a separate, smaller boiler for each side, and now my tenant pays their own heat. The tenant's boiler runs often, lol. At this rate, I figure my boiler can be a spare for when the other one bites the dust!!

Both boilers are installed in my side of the house, for ease of servicing.

The new boilers are also much more economical. Average oil use for the old units averaged 1215 gal/year. The new ones, with a house temp of 62° night and 70° day is about 350-400 gallons per year. Still way way more expensive than coal.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:28 pm

LDPosse wrote:
SMITTY wrote:Good Christ LD! I wouldn't want your oil bill after looking at that second pic! 2 oil burners!! I go thru a gallon per hour with just ONE. :shock: :o :shock:


LOL the last time I burned oil was nov 2011. It's been all coal heat since then. My house is a side by side duplex. When I moved in here in 2006, there were already 2 oil tanks, but 1 boiler. I separated the tanks, and installed a separate, smaller boiler for each side, and now my tenant pays their own heat. The tenant's boiler runs often, lol. At this rate, I figure my boiler can be a spare for when the other one bites the dust!!

Both boilers are installed in my side of the house, for ease of servicing.

The new boilers are also much more economical. Average oil use for the old units averaged 1215 gal/year. The new ones, with a house temp of 62° night and 70° day is about 350-400 gallons per year. Still way way more expensive than coal.


:shock: Thats a nice drop in oil consumption.
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: LDPosse On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:17 pm

Just to clarify, that is 350-400 gallons for each boiler, so the house total is down to 700-800 gals from 1215 gal avg. I'm sure some of that is the tenant using the heat more sparingly. The house used to have the old round honeywell t-stats. I put in some programmable ones. The tenant asked me to set up the same day/night program that I used. I believe the true efficiency increase with the new boilers was probably about 10%.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523


Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:42 pm

AHH IC, I was really scratchin thier for a second thinking 300-400 gallons a season :gee: His house must be the size of his prius :lol: Thanks for the clarity
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:10 pm

LDPosse wrote:LOL the last time I burned oil was nov 2011. It's been all coal heat since then. My house is a side by side duplex.


How are you heating a duplex with coal stoves?

LDPosse wrote:Just to clarify, that is 350-400 gallons for each boiler, so the house total is down to 700-800 gals from 1215 gal avg. I'm sure some of that is the tenant using the heat more sparingly. The house used to have the old round honeywell t-stats. I put in some programmable ones. The tenant asked me to set up the same day/night program that I used. I believe the true efficiency increase with the new boilers was probably about 10%.


Yes, modern control systems can help stretch the fuel even with older equipment.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: LDPosse On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:24 pm

Sorry, more clarification, lol...

I used oil heat from oct 2006-nov 2011. I've been burning a coal stove to heat my half of the house since nov 2011. My tenant still uses oil heat. I still have both boilers, but I don't use the one for my side. It is currently unhooked, and I plan to repipe the system with a manifold for PEX and have a home run to each room.

I am also short an aquastat at the current time.... Last winter, the aquastat on my tenant's boiler bit the dust, so I swapped it out for the one on my boiler.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, WM 400-A, 523

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:40 pm

AHH now I see the need for boiler #2 - great idea there. Saved yourself a bundle on oil, plus saved future headaches. You know how tenant's boiler's always go down on Christmas Eve ... ;)
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: DennisH On: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:08 am

Greyhound wrote:I generally wait for below 40 degree daytime temps, but generally around All Hallows Eve.

Rick


Me too!
DennisH
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon-Eagle Klondike IV
Other Heating: Propane

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: MudFlapLip On: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:36 am

I fired up last Tuesday, 10/8. Lows went down into the low 40's overnight for a few days and I hate waking up cold................plus I was getting the itch. toothy DS on idle (low) and I'm using about a bucket a day. The top of the stove right behind the load door is at 240, pipe is at 140 right after the damper. I went last Tuesday until yesterday on the same ash pan. What are your guys' temps at low?
MudFlapLip
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. Machine Stoves, DS1600WH Circulator
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:30 pm

thinking about firing up this weekend, saturday afternoon after work. Calling for lows in the mid thirties at night starting next week, with highs in mid 50's during days. Will be the earliest i will have fired up. past 2 seasons was doing work on system at last minute. Only work neeeded this year(i hope) will be setting diff/offset on back up oil boiler stage module for when it gets brutal cold out in mid winter(below 15*) and coal recovery isn't able to keep up. Or thats how it was with old control system. Hoping with new elctrical controls(pump strategy) recovery time will be better between calls for zone heat. Plus like others, getting anxiuos about firing up and see the blue lady dance.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: scottshotgun On: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:28 pm

I was a little anxious to see the stoker run since i put it in this summer with chilly temps in the forecast I thought i'd try my luck with getting it fired,,, that part wasn't as bad as what i feared. but an hour later I had enough , Man that thing put off the heat Its definitely not cold enough to run that thing. bring on winter :D
scottshotgun
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska channing 3 /Coal-trol
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: Propane boiler/ baseboard

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: DennisH On: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:49 pm

I caved. Was trying to hold off firing up the Yukon-Eagle Klondike IV until 31 October, but no luck! Getting chilly at night and don't want to burn much propane. At the moment I'm on wood fire until the daytime highs fall below freezing. Then I switch to coal. DW says it's TOO hot when burning coal and temps are above freezing, so it's wood for the moment. :oops:
DennisH
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon-Eagle Klondike IV
Other Heating: Propane

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:37 am

I currently have the pellet stove insert running along with a little electric piggy in the new living room. I want to clean the fins on the blowers on the coal burner, then fire it up in the first half of next week.. High of 62 degrees projected for Monday, then 40's after that.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: jpd989 On: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:58 am

Fired up the boiler yesterday. Checked in on it this morning, everything running good and lots of hot water to use.
jpd989
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. Machine Basement Stove #3
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat and Chestnut
Stove/Furnace Model: LL110k Boiler

Re: Anticipated Fire Up Date for 2013-2014 Winter

PostBy: Greyhound On: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:29 pm

I guess I will have to revise my projected date to the 23rd. Weather forecast sounds ominous beyond that. Oh well, what's a week early, another excuse to hide downstairs. ;)
Greyhound
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 105
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Lenox Oil HA, Heat Pump