Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: Kungur On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:23 am

I was wondering if anyone might have an idea for a inexpensive & temporary chimney. I would like to put one in my shop using an existing window.
The reason for temporary is I would remove or store the stove in the warm weather months so as to not use up the floor space. Winter is a time of less use so the space is available.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:28 am

For wood? Just use some stove pipe. I had a barrel stove in my garage for years with a stove pipe chimney... Of course it wasn't legal hahah.. But, I'm an outlaw so I don't care :lol:
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:34 am

Good morning Kungu, can you remove the top sash and cover with a piece of metal sturdy enough to hold a wall thimble? You could make a thimble as well by using a piece of 8" pipe with 5 or 6 1" self tappers evenly spaced around the circumference of the pipe and slide the 6" pipe giving you a 1" air space between the pipes and fill the space with a fire rated insulation!...just my 2 cents.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:40 am

michaelanthony wrote:Good morning Kungu, can you remove the top sash and cover with a piece of metal sturdy enough to hold a wall thimble? You could make a thimble as well by using a piece of 8" pipe with 5 or 6 1" self tappers evenly spaced around the circumference of the pipe and slide the 6" pipe giving you a 1" air space between the pipes and fill the space with a fire rated insulation!...just my 2 cents.


Yes exactly, just use yer head and keep the pipe away from anything that shouldn't get hot. I used two shelf brackets and coat hanger wire at the roof to stabilize the pipe :) Looked awesome :lol: but was on the backside so no one ever saw it...
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:40 am

Yep--what ma said :)
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:54 am

Sorry but that would be a foolish thing to do. Put up a real chimney and just remove your stove in summer if floor space is a problem. Better than burning the place down. Single wall smoke pipe will breakdown quickly outside.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:09 am

yes, what CK said...
if you used the black flue pipe you'd be replacing it every year like somebody on here found out...can't remember who but they posted pics after one season - it was pretty much disintegrated as I recall.

I understand the floor space issue, but if you know that is where the stove is going each year I'd put in a block chimney and replace the window glass pane with cement board and a thimble.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:45 am

titleist1 wrote:yes, what CK said...
if you used the black flue pipe you'd be replacing it every year like somebody on here found out...can't remember who but they posted pics after one season - it was pretty much disintegrated as I recall.

I understand the floor space issue, but if you know that is where the stove is going each year I'd put in a block chimney and replace the window glass pane with cement board and a thimble.


Yeah that was me, with the coal furnace hahaha.... My barrel wood stove - stove pipe chimney lasted 10 years.. Made a fine temp/cheap chimney, but yeah, illegal, irresponsible :oops: - could be unsafe. Use yer head :idea:
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:12 am

The cheapest easiest and best drafting is straight up through the roof depending on the building using stainless. The insulated stainless only has to go from the attic space up and through the roof.

If you prefer to go through the side wall I have the wall support plus insulated tee plus short length to enter shop. Selkirk used for wood in good shape, Additional parts readily available and will sell cheap.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:21 pm

Real nice offer franco :) --money appears to not be a problem in Md. I know, I know--cost a lot more if ya burnt the place down--BS--of course if a person doesn't have enough common sense to install a Rube Goldberg system-- SAFELY--by all means get as grandiose as you can. I seriously doubt that is the situation with Kungur. I've had a black pipe out my maintenance shed that lasted for the 5 yrs I had it installed--I made a pipe cap that resembled a sombrero and protected it from the elements. Wish I could find some pix of the set up--but remembered that back then, I had no computer & had no idea what a digital camera was-- Just sayin
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:39 pm

good point FF about the $$ cost of the block chimney.

if i didn't want to spend the money / effort on the block I'd probably do the same with the cement board through the window pane and black pipe outside.

then i would do it again the second year and again the third year and about the 4th year i'd be saying to myself 'what am I doing here again....i wish I'd have spent the money up front' . :doh:

but of course by then i wouldn't want to admit defeat and would just call it exercise and yearly maintenance cost. :) I burned wood for a lot of years so I know i have done similar stuff in the past!
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:44 pm

And, I would respond with---did you try that sombrero style chimney cap--as stated before, my black pipe going out a window pane lasted a good 5 yrs with no deterioration ;) PS--I was 18" out from the wall & only had to go about 2' above the facia for a good draft--I have a feeling you did a 15' or so stack?????--then YES, your black pipe would probably be trashed
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:45 pm

Fred, money is a problem everywhere but I just don't like to take short cuts with safety. Happy to hear your smoke pipe "rig" lasted 5 years with the sombrero but I call that African engineering. :lol: A job worth doing is worth doing right and all. My father drilled that into my head I guess. I've seen the consequences too many times of such short cuts.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:52 pm

How about a propane heater or a kerosene salamander heater that way you don't need a chimney.
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Re: Inexpensive/Temporary Chimney?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:44 pm

Soooo, we can agree to disagree? Safety is always paramount in anything & I've learned over the years that if someone has a different, as safety conscious a solution, why would I try to belittle that. And YES ch, there is quite an assortment of those type heaters that are way far advanced safety wise then the ones I'm accustomed to in earlier designs--the early salamanders would just about gag a cow LOL
coalkirk wrote:Fred, money is a problem everywhere but I just don't like to take short cuts with safety. Happy to hear your smoke pipe "rig" lasted 5 years with the sombrero but I call that African engineering. :lol: A job worth doing is worth doing right and all. My father drilled that into my head I guess. I've seen the consequences too many times of such short cuts.
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