stove/insert for dad

stove/insert for dad

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:07 pm

I am looking for a stove for my dad it will be vented into a fireplace. He has been looking at the us stove company wood burning inserts however he is in his late 50s and I do no want to get conscripted into cuting firewood as he ages.

I am trying to find a coal stove that vents out the back and is low enough to go into the fireplace opening so it can hook up to a SS liner that is yet to be installed. The chimney is soft brick, unlined, and does a jog around the second story fireplace hearth but most importantly of all dad thinks a liner has to be installed so thats how it will be.

Does anybody know of a 50,000+Btu stove that vents out the back and the top of the flue collar is 28" or less from the floor? All of them i have looked at vent too high.
carlherrnstein
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:52 pm

Chubby Sr or Jr fits the bill.
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Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:03 pm

ONEDOLLAR wrote:Chubby Sr or Jr fits the bill.


The problem with a Chubby is it wont go into a fireplace, the problem with the chubby Jr is BTU output for this particular application you should have suggested a Crane 404 since it was made for exactly that.
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:08 pm

The chubbys seem a bit small for this application (may be wrong) and the crane stoves are saddly out of production I should have added that where we live anthracite is hundreds of miles away the only coal we can get here reliably is ohio or kentucky bituminous. I think a ds circulator might work well given the fuel source available but Im unsure how high the flue vent is.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
Coal Size/Type: pea stoker/Ohio bituminous

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:10 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:The chubbys seem a bit small for this application (may be wrong) and the crane stoves are saddly out of production I should have added that where we live anthracite is hundreds of miles away the only coal we can get here reliably is ohio or kentucky bituminous. I think a ds circulator might work well given the fuel source available but Im unsure how high the flue vent is.


DS can weld one up w/ a slightly lowered flue outlet...just make the call. :)
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:54 pm

I happen to be perusing this site which gives pretty good pics of this unit http://messickstove.com/Stove%20DS%20Ma ... 01300.html
I will stick out quite a bit for sure and even though it does not advertise wood use, my guess is it would do fine with wood too. (Ugly as Snot... but beauty is in eye of beholder :lol: )
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: cowentz On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:08 pm

Harman Mark II with the legs cut down, or unbolted and removed. I have shortened legs on mine to make the top of the flue outlet at 27.5". it would be even lower if you completely remove the legs.
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: tcalo On: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:48 pm

dcrane wrote:The problem with a Chubby is it wont go into a fireplace

The rear vent Chubby Sr is made to install into an existing fireplace. It's a beautiful stove that is simple to use.
http://chubbystove.com/always%20free%20 ... upport.htm
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Coal Stove
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:21 am

tcalo wrote:
dcrane wrote:The problem with a Chubby is it wont go into a fireplace

The rear vent Chubby Sr is made to install into an existing fireplace. It's a beautiful stove that is simple to use.
http://chubbystove.com/always%20free%20 ... upport.htm


He was referring to a "stove/Insert"... unless that fireplace is abnormally tall and abnormally narrow a Chubby Sr. wont go into it (but rather sit in front of the face and the only thing going into the fireplace opening is the pipe). Both Chubbys are more of a free standing unit to be placed onto a hearth or hearth pad (but a Chubby Jr. can be pushed into most fireplace openings, It just would not look correct). This is where a Crane 404 shines its brightest... typical narrow hearth, typical fireplace opening for direct plug N play action for all the benefits of a free standing good quality, easy install coal stove and the décor/fit of a fireplace insert when called for (the photo above shows this concept well, A chubby would have to be sitting out on my hardwood floor). Sorry for the miscommunication (Chubby's are indeed great free standing units)!
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: tcalo On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:55 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:I am looking for a stove for my dad it will be vented into a fireplace. I am trying to find a coal stove that vents out the back and is low enough to go into the fireplace opening so it can hook up to a SS liner that is yet to be installed.

Seems like a Chubby would work?
tcalo
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:03 pm

tcalo wrote:
carlherrnstein wrote:I am looking for a stove for my dad it will be vented into a fireplace. I am trying to find a coal stove that vents out the back and is low enough to go into the fireplace opening so it can hook up to a SS liner that is yet to be installed.

Seems like a Chubby would work?


key words "low enough to go into the fireplace"... yeeesh.... I thought I had a one track mind toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: tcalo On: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:05 pm

I assumed he meant the stove needed to be vented into the fireplace, not the whole stove!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite

Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: Gian4 On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:07 am

Why not a Hitzer 503 fireplace insert?
Gian4
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:37 pm

Gian4

No doubt about it Hitzer makes some GREAT stoves but can they burn bit? Carl has mentioned that the stove he looking for his father to use will be burning bit.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
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Re: stove/insert for dad

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:51 pm

Bituminous coal seems to be the stumbling block I showed him DS machine stoves and the response was "your mother really likes the way TSC's fireplace insert looks". I fear hope is lost on a coal stove cause the insert that TSC sells is wood. Thanks for the all the replies.
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Coal Size/Type: pea stoker/Ohio bituminous

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