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Post by jschaefer7406 » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 6:53 pm

Hello all,

As most here, I'm anxiously preparing for burning season and am trying to find a good way to reduce the dust in our basement.

I know many here have used the Oneida Dust Deputy, but none of the threads on my search specified how much was sucked through (be it just the fine powder, or larger chunks). Most of my dust and fly ash comes from scooping out the ash, as I don't have a removable pan. I'm wondering if the Dust Deputy will work efficiently if I were to vacuum 100% of the ash, not just the leftover dust as some do. Anyone doing this?

Obviously I'd have to let the ash cool. Hoping I can shake, then vacuum before the next shake down so it has time to cool. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Joe

 
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Post by franco b » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 7:02 pm

Scooping out ash does not make the dust, it is when you empty the scoop into a pail or container. I think letting the vac take it all is too much.Try just placing a vac at the rim of your container and with it running it will suck up just about all the floating dust as you empty your scoop. Can't you fit an ash pan to your stove?

Shop Vac with fine dust bag works well.

 
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Post by dcrane » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 8:06 pm

Thats not for ash (Id be scared to vacuum hot ashes with that myself :cry: ), how about simple fabricating a removable dust pan? take measurements and go to any local sheet metal shop if your not comfortable doing it yourself (It wont cost more than that silly dust deputy), many people have two ashpans to make the switch out fast and easy. A better idea would be to simply plan a route outside to dump the ashpans (IE: window, door, hatch in which you place your fireproof ash container).

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 8:20 pm

Joe, I have a Dust Deputy that I use along with a big Shop-Vac to clean out my boiler twice per year. It is not a practical setup to use on a large volume of ash. I got it so I could vacuum all the fly ash out without clogging the vacuum filter...it is slow going when you get into heavy ash or small clinkers.

With that said, I have never seen a coal stove that didn't come with an ash pan of some sort. I would either buy or fabricate one...two if you want to be able to swap them quickly and let the full one cool.


 
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Post by McGiever » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 8:30 pm

Some old coal furnaces are small on ash door and big on ash pit. They are only emptied by shovel. :(

 
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Post by tsb » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 8:50 pm

They work great, but it's a "dust deputy" not a clinker deputy.

 
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Post by jschaefer7406 » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 8:56 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. :)

As McGiever mentioned, the door isn't full width and the pit is good sized. Could fab a pan to catch some of it I'd guess. Not sure if it ever had one, may have originally but was missing since we've owned the house...

I do try to shovel gently, but seems no matter how I do it, it gets pretty dusty when emptying the shovel into the bucket. Started burning Harmony coal last year and it seemed even worse for the dust (but the reduction in ash made up for it). Anxious to try the "new" Harmony, reviews have been decent ;).

May try the idea of running a vacuum next to the bucket :).

As for being a "clinker deputy", can't say I've ever had any clinkers to speak of. Been burning since December 2010, maybe I just don't burn hot enough for them to form? The ash I get back is usually pretty well burned, nothing too large in there. That's why I thought maybe this would work...

Thanks all,

Joe

 
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Post by dcrane » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 9:01 pm

jschaefer7406 wrote:Thanks for the replies guys. :)

As McGiever mentioned, the door isn't full width and the pit is good sized. Could fab a pan to catch some of it I'd guess. Not sure if it ever had one, may have originally but was missing since we've owned the house...

I do try to shovel gently, but seems no matter how I do it, it gets pretty dusty when emptying the shovel into the bucket. Started burning Harmony coal last year and it seemed even worse for the dust (but the reduction in ash made up for it). Anxious to try the "new" Harmony, reviews have been decent ;).

May try the idea of running a vacuum next to the bucket :).

As for being a "clinker deputy", can't say I've ever had any clinkers to speak of. Been burning since December 2010, maybe I just don't burn hot enough for them to form? The ash I get back is usually pretty well burned, nothing too large in there. That's why I thought maybe this would work...

Thanks all,

Joe
Whats the grate look like in your furnace? Im just curious? thanks!


 
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Post by jschaefer7406 » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 9:09 pm

dcrane wrote:Whats the grate look like in your furnace? Im just curious? thanks!
Mine has 3 triangular grates. Can't find much info on the furnace, but most I've shown it to say it looks to be a well-made unit :).

Joe

 
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Post by lsayre » Sun. Oct. 06, 2013 10:02 pm

My dust Deputy will drop coal and clear on down to fine coal dust into the bucket beneath it, but fly ash goes right on through and onto the filter inside my Shop Vac.

 
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Post by blrman07 » Mon. Oct. 07, 2013 7:34 am

I thought this furnace sounded familiar so I did some searching and found when you first moved into your location and found it in the basement in December 2010. You suspected it had been underwater and was looking for advice. You posted some nice photo's of the Kogen then. It's nice to hear you got it going and the only complaint has been dust when emptying the ashes.

Following is the link to that first post. Never Burned Coal Before...Advice?

Take some dimensions of the ash pit door opening and subtract an inch from the sides and the top. Measure the depth of the ash pit and subtract an inch. Take the dimensions to any sheet metal shop and tell them you want an ash pan fabricated to fit inside these dimensions. Get two made and your good to go. Splurge and get them to make a cover for it and you will love yourself later for spending those couple of extra bucks for the lids. Then you can take the pan out, take it outside and dump it SLOWLY into your tub, bin, or dump area. Or you can set it aside to cool or if it is exceedingly nasty outside, put in the spare. :D

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