Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:28 pm

I agree that extra mass would be beneficial, but in this case the old boiler is "ultra low mass" and only holds 2.5 gallons of water.
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: kstills On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:02 pm

Well, I would still install the primary loop through that boiler, that was a real lifesaver for me. I can maintain my set point if I pass the loop through my boilermate, so I think the key for the WL110 is to just vent some of the heat in order to make it easier to adjust the idle time.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: WL 110
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Wiz On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:10 pm

Thought my oil boiler install was rat's nest, I cut all the crap out then start fresh.
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Seeing that the System 2000 is going down the road and I won't be installing in tandem, perhaps the best way is to start from scratch. I guess its just a little intimidating to start from square one the first doing an install. I was kind of hoping for as little modification as possible. I am not afraid to take on the job, I am just a little worried of running into a major road block that will delay the install and get me into a heap of trouble this late in to the year. I do you a wood furnace to heat with as a back up if I had to.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:31 pm

wilder11354 wrote:I agree with whistlenut, move all the zone contol valves, and feed return manifolds to a wall mount setup. also use isolator bleed valves in each each zone and ball valve on other side of zone valve from isolator, to close off that section if zone valve ever goes bad, just isolate the valve and replace it, no draing whole system to fix. Think it out, sketch it out, lay it out, then double check, then start to assemble it.

Some good pics of a wall install setup of zone manifolds and controls. http://nepacrossroads.com/about27603.html Rob R is the builder of this one i believe.


Thanks for the advice. I guess I just need to get that yellow b*****d out of the way and figure it all out!
Z10396
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:52 pm

Anyone have any more good pics of their installs? I am trying to build the confidence to do the install. At this point I haven't gained the confidence to dive in. Hoping some more pics will inspire me. At this point I am starting to wonder if I will get this thing installed before the snow flies. A little gun shy I guess!
Z10396
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Sting On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:07 am

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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: dh1200s On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:09 pm

As Sting pointed out some subject matter books are a real good start point. I just have “Pumping Away” along with many links I gathered and reviewed before the start of my project and as you are wisely doing reaching out to the many subject matter experts at this forum.

I have a some pics of my install over at the Leisure Line Stove Company Forum http://nepacrossroads.com/about24010.html

I elected to layout and build up a pump board (Pri/Sec config.) so that I could do most of my copper soldering at the work bench. Even soldered up a port to pressurize the system with air to check for leaks…….a bit of over kill but this added a measure of confidence in my work before cutting the pump board into my system.

I went from zone valves to cir. pumps on my loops also used a Taco SR503 for pump control to help keep the wiring a bit more simplified for me.

As others mentioned I used my longest loop for my dump zone. I have the trip point set for 215F and it very seldom trips during the heating season. I feel I have the WL110 dialed in for my set up.

As mentioned with a low mass boiler more mass will help buffer WL110 boiler temp swings on calls for heat. You could add mass something like Rob mentioned in another post a "Boiler Buddy"down the road to your system.

If you are in a hurry look for an assist from a qualified family member, friend or contract out all or parts of the install if you can find a contractor that will work with you.

Good luck……….Dick
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: tsb On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:54 pm

I've been to Richford,NY . We used to deliver parts to Marathon Heater.
It gets cold there real quick. So you better get moving.

The boiler I built is very much the same size as the LL Boiler.
It has a smaller grate, but you get the idea of how I hooked it up.
Not the neatest job, but it works.

Sounded easy at first
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:12 pm

Thanks guys for the responses. It does get cold here pretty quick. Is there any close to Richford that would be willing for me to come look at there set up? I still haven't gained the confidence to dive in to this install.
Z10396
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:05 pm

Hi Everyone, I was posting to this thread a lot late last fall trying to build the confidence to tackle the install. I am sorry to say that I chickened out and burnt fuel oil in the old boiler all winter. It was a long cold winter in NY and I spent a whole bunch of money that I should have used to just pay someone to put the WL110 in! Anyhow here I am, its July so what better time to bite the bolt and jump in head first! I am looking for someone that can kind of help coach me along. I am going to take all next week off from work to attempt it. I am a total novice so I am basically starting a ground zero. I am going to set it up with 4 zones so here is my list of parts that I have:

8- 3/4" all valves
3- 1/2" boiler drains
1- low water cut off
1- backflow preventer
1- inline air separator
1- #30 expansion tank
1- 1/2" thread pressure/reducer

Plus the stuff that came the 110 of course.

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I have the manual so I have a basic understand of the layout of the boiler, i.e the feed, return etc.
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Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:14 pm

Get a good hot torch...have you soldered much?
Get a good Pipe Dope aka thead sealant and quality teflon tape.
Zoning w/ pumps or w/ valves? You'll need a matching controller for either way.
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:22 pm

Yep, I am a pretty decent solderer. Going with zone valves.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:36 pm

Z10396 wrote:Yep, I am a pretty decent solderer. Going with zone valves.


I've had great success with Taco Zone Sentry zone valves, and with a Taco Zone Valve Control Module that made getting them up and running a snap.
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Re: Getting Ready to Install LL WL110

PostBy: Z10396 On: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:58 pm

Thanks for the advice on the zone valves and control module. I am looking for a schematic of sorts or some detailed pictures of a similar install. Trying to get comfortable with how the loop should be laid out.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL110

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