hook up stove

hook up stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:18 am

need some help here, measurements for my hearth are as follows. 54 inches wide- 44 1/2 inches in depth. from the floor it is 55 inches to the top of the brick on the wall in height. currently have a stove in place 17inches from center of croc and it is 6 inch diameter.new stove is 29 inches wide, 35 1/4 high, 30 1/2 deep. so center of outlet on new stove is 30 1/4 inches.trying to see if i have enough room to go straight into the chimney with a t and baro. or will it take up less space if i put a 90 degree elbow and go up then 90 degree elbow into brick. my concern is the 44 inches from front to back of the hearth. will this stove fit? new stove is rear venting.
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:58 am

hearth measurement requirements this the same question? Adding elbows and then straight pipe with a baro, will shrink your clearances significantly based on the information you provided. You nay need to add to the floor protection which was talked about in your other post....which I believe also talked about the height of your thimble. Does the DS stove line up with your thimble? and do they recommend a mpd or baro, may need both in order to avoid a bench clearing brawl! :lol:
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:03 pm

ds stove calls for a baro. i have to drill a hole for a new thimble as the stove in the pic will be removed and that thimble is to low.so that hole will have to be sealed up
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:14 pm

A stove 30 inches deep plus at least 8 inches for stove pipe means a hearth that is 38 plus 18 inches in front of stove for a total of 56 inches.
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:31 pm

wow another 18 inches up front. that seems like alot, considering pre 1950's alot of coal stoves didnt have a hearth, just on wood floors.
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:06 pm

shoman70 wrote:wow another 18 inches up front. that seems like alot, considering pre 1950's alot of coal stoves didnt have a hearth, just on wood floors.


The 18 inches, sometimes 16 inches is to provide a safety zone in case any hot coals fall out. Usually the old stoves were set on a thin steel plate at least or in a bed of sand or gravel held in place by a wood frame. Because they were vertical the foot print was usually only 24 inches for a big stove.

With the new stoves the clearance and hearth dimensions are set up in a UL testing lab where safe distances are arrived at when firing the stove very hard. Not many will run the stove that hard. Local inspectors in general want you to follow those recommendations if you intend to get it inspected, otherwise you can do as you deem fit. You could just put it on the existing hearth but I would then put one of those small fire resistant rugs in front of it. Depends on your degree of concern and whether an inspector will examine it. I think the stove you want is hopper fed so not much chance of hot coal tumbling out because the front door will be closed.

The need for a baro or manual damper is much less when a stove has a thermostat to control intake air. I would not hesitate to use it without one.
Last edited by franco b on Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:10 pm

ok frank thats for the info, maybe i will have to extend the hearth 16 inches due to safety. not sure on the fire proof rug tho. my main concern god forbid a fire and insurance wont cover damage.so i want to do it right. maybe will install stove and then extend hearth out some. damn thing will extend so far into living room thats what i was trying to avoid.
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:20 pm

shoman70 wrote:ok frank thats for the info, maybe i will have to extend the hearth 16 inches due to safety. not sure on the fire proof rug tho. my main concern god forbid a fire and insurance wont cover damage.so i want to do it right. maybe will install stove and then extend hearth out some. damn thing will extend so far into living room thats what i was trying to avoid.


That bothers me too because what you have looks so nice. A stove with a top exit would sit closer. A stove only 20 inches deep would be good too. Depends on the heating load too. A more vertical antique could be considered too.
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:23 pm

If you were to just put down some ceramic in front of your raised hearth, it would suffice safety wise & not be in the way at all. Get creative with it--from looking at your hearth---you know how to do that :)
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PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:32 pm

yeah fred i thought about that as well with the tile, i just bought the house and tiling is not my thing lol. not sure how brick hearth then tile then carpet would look kinda weird i think. but maybe not. is that small tile right in front of your stove in the pic?
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:33 pm

I like it.
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PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:36 pm

Just tell grandma not to leave her knittin basket in front of the thing and run it. Ill bet a nickle that not many fires are started by a hot coal falling out on a hardwood floor. Your gonna see it.
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PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:17 pm

sm, that 1x1 tile comes in mats--didn't used to, but now??? yes--you can do a real decorative/ design pattern of your choosing--go talk to some tile people--Lowe's, Home Depot or just a flooring place--that mat stuff is not that complicated to put down--if you go that route--don't fall for that having to put cement board down or anything like that--I've done a lot of tiling in my days---anyway, if you go that route, I can walk ya through it real easy:) I guess I can use LsFarm as a reference--(Greg) did a real good job
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: shoman70 On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:47 pm

i think i know what you mean 1x 1 tiles on a mesh backing? and them you just cut the backing?
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Re: hook up stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:55 pm

You betcha :)
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