Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:09 pm

This one hits home, because it is in my home county. This seems to prove that the state owns even your very own children. What do the people still own?

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/govt-usu ... irl_102013
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:15 pm

I don't own my children. But neither does the *censored* government. They are their own people.

But then again, we live in a police state so....we're all slaves.
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:20 pm

You don't "own" your children. They have rights like any other individual. They are not property. You do have custody and in a sense dominion over them and also have rights within that context.

What constitutes abuse can have wide and even absurd opinions, but regarding medical treatment I don't see where a judge can do anything else but follow what is regarded as best practice by experts in the field. His concern is and should be for the individual involved. No one else. If that individual is old enough, of sound mind and understands the choices, that is another matter.

What about a religious practice like circumcision? There are fights going on about that.

What if I thought it unnatural to cut a child's hair and other kids made fun of him. Would that be abuse by the parent?
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:59 am

im not sure if this has anything to do with "ownership"
...i understand most peoples arguments that their child should be treated as they see fit...
HOWEVER... what if his 10 year old girl simply said "I want to live" ??
....at what age do her "rights" begin?
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:08 am

Rigar wrote:HOWEVER... what if his 10 year old girl simply said "I want to live" ??
....at what age do her "rights" begin?

At birth and some would say before that.
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:18 am

franco b wrote:
Rigar wrote:HOWEVER... what if his 10 year old girl simply said "I want to live" ??
....at what age do her "rights" begin?

At birth and some would say before that.


Ohhhh gosh... "Here we Gooooooooooo" toothy
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:16 am

As bad as you or we may think it is, the gov't should butt the hell out of our business. We are supposed to be free to make our OWN decisions, right or wrong. There is no guarantee of success. With today's socialist leanings, they now butt into EVERYTHING. :mad:
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:25 am

The only thing is that your rights stop as soon as you infringe on someone else's rights. Supposedly.
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:48 pm

The only thing is that your rights stop as soon as you infringe on someone else's rights. Supposedly.


But you cannot extend that to children under a certain age or unborn. Or the gov. can interfere in every aspect of your life. Wake up people, they are taking control through every door available. Which came first the chicken or the egg? I don't not care, I eat the chickens and their eggs. Get the gov. out of making any decisions for families. I have said it before and I will say it again. A school superintendent told me that "people make poor decisions for their children so me must make them for them." It is pure Socialism and must be addressed. Child abuse, both physical and mental, must be quantified and certified. We have gone to far when we insist that there is only one way to live and raise children.

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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:51 pm

Did you sign a marriage license , that makes a big difference in answering the question...but that's another story..
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Re: Who has charge over your child? You, or the state?

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:25 pm

grumpy wrote:Did you sign a marriage license , that makes a big difference in answering the question...but that's another story..


And a big story at that. Critical in fact to the resolution of this matter.
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