Don't call the cops

Don't call the cops

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:51 pm

http://gunsnfreedom.com/ct-cops-seize-6 ... -felonies/

A Connecticut man found himself in the crosshairs of his state’s anti-2nd amendment policies for simply having too many guns and being a rocketeer.

Police raided the home of Joseph Callahan, 69, on Monday and charged him with 11 counts of illegal possession of explosives and six counts of first-degree reckless endangerment after finding 274 guns in his home in Fairfield Connecticut.

Callahan is a gun aficionado who collects guns and is also a retired chemist who is an amateur rocketeer. And according to the NY Daily News “at least some of the chemicals found appeared to be for his rocketry hobby.” I’m guessing that all of those chemicals were used for his hobby.




And they released him free on bond as long as he helps them sort out what he had there !!!!!!!



Un freaking believable.



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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:17 pm

Believable in a nation where objectivity and individualism and freedom and honest weights and measures (and the morality required to sustain the good inherent in each of these) have been replaced by subjectivity and the vague notion of a common good and the altruism required to obtain it.

Too many guns is purely subjective.

The idea that too many guns in this mans possession harm the common good begs the question: Who defines something as vague and subjective as a "common good"? Good for whom? Who benefits from it? Who enforces it? And who suffers as a consequence of this enforcement?

Altruism is the belief that the good can only be experienced through sacrifice (as seen in the nonsensical and purely subjective example that "it is better to give (sacrifice) than to receive (accept the sacrificial offering)". This mans independence and individualism must be altruistically sacrificed upon the alter of the greater good that would be achievable only if he didn't have any of the inherent qualities listed in the first half of paragraph 1 in and of himself.

As can be seen here, subjectivity, altruism, and the concept of a common good are merely the evil tools of the parasitic state.

And even if you cant see this for what it is, remember that every sacrifice made by anyone to the glory and benefit of the state sees the state accepting and benefiting from the sacrificial offering.... (be it a willing or a forced sacrifice). And as the power of the state grows, it more and more desires forced sacrifice.
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:22 pm

I was told they weren't coming to take our guns?
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:40 pm

I'm scared to tell people I have coal in my house nevermind guns. Waiting for the day they try taking my dirty, polluting musclecars away from me.
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:55 pm

Come on people, they already have run a successful campaign for the Pres. of the USA on the premise that you have enough money already. It is a small leap to guns, gold, women, cars(they will arrest Jay Leno next) and anything else deemed excessive by Vegan, back to earth, save every creature at the expense of mankind types. As my younger brother says, " They will not be satisfied until we are all standing in a big mud puddle together, broke and miserable, all of us. Because then we will all be equal."

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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:17 am

you're all on a list.....
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:21 am

Kind of hard to believe that he didn't have the guns & such out of sight, normally they just check for signs of entry (around here anyway). I used to get aviation fuel for higher octane but jet fuel (as far as I know is more of a diesel mixture) but has very unpredictable fumes, I sure wouldn't keep it even too near my house. I can recall back in the 80s a boss I had was a big time gun collector & had a house fire (kitchen), he made the mistake of telling the VFD it was good they got there before it got to his hobby room & then actually showed off by opening the door. Turns out they "had" to call in the police that called in the county, they took most everything away (he got most back) but it was for safety reasons, if that house would go a couple of neighbors & everyone trying to fight the fire would go as well. Then he complained because his Homeowners dropped him. :o
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: hophead On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:12 pm

samhill wrote:Kind of hard to believe that he didn't have the guns & such out of sight, normally they just check for signs of entry (around here anyway). I used to get aviation fuel for higher octane but jet fuel (as far as I know is more of a diesel mixture) but has very unpredictable fumes, I sure wouldn't keep it even too near my house. I can recall back in the 80s a boss I had was a big time gun collector & had a house fire (kitchen), he made the mistake of telling the VFD it was good they got there before it got to his hobby room & then actually showed off by opening the door. Turns out they "had" to call in the police that called in the county, they took most everything away (he got most back) but it was for safety reasons, if that house would go a couple of neighbors & everyone trying to fight the fire would go as well. Then he complained because his Homeowners dropped him. :o


I had no idea guns and ammo exploded in a fire. You're either very misinformed, not telling us everything, or just telling a big fat whopper. Which is it?
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:53 pm

Having too many guns is against the law? I doubt it.
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:09 pm

In a fire, ammunition will cook off. But because the casing is not contained in the chamber and because the casing is lighter then a bullet, the casing will either rupture and go nowhere or the casing will be the one that is pushed away and not at the velocities of a bullet from a barrel. Bullets fly because of the high pressure from CONTAINING an explosion that has only one way to escape. Out the barrel behind the bullet.
Ammunition in loaded guns however will cook off and be dangerous. But that is no reason to take his guns after the fire is out. That is just public safety experts doing what they do best, which is anything they want because they hardly ever get called on it and never get fired for it.

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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:21 pm

Hophead, do you think ammo just sits there & stays cool along with over 5 hundred pounds of black powder (might have been more depending on how much reloaded ammo he sold) he was big at reloading & selling at gun shows & made his own flintlocks, the carpenter shop would do the stocks & the casting & boiler shops would do some other parts for him. He had quite a business going, are you really serious that you didn't know that bullets explode when hot enough? :?
He did get all his stuff back but I think he had to promise to keep a limited supply on hand & like I said he had problems getting homeowners Ins. after that but naturally they almost always drop someone if they dare to file a claim.
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:29 pm

I could simply puke on several accounts,namely trying to sort out the kooks from the ignorant,the mis-informed,the Progressives from the supposed Cave-Dwellers and the list goes on....Unless I get my gag reflex cut-out,I'm still converging on the baffroom to hurl! A little bit of clean-up and I'll try to get back to explaining my comments and sort out the pepper from the fly-poop on this one ! :hammer:
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: hophead On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:20 pm

Bullets DO NOT EXPLODE in a fire unless they are compressed, period. You seem to be forever telling people to read so I suggest you read up on this subject. They rupture the case and that's all. You said nothing about black powder, Which you may or may not have a problem with depending how it was stored, only him being a gun collector.

On another level have you ever had Fox News peruse your comments and threads here. If not you're missing out on a good thing. You'd be an excellent stand in for Bob Beckel on the FIVE. :roll:
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:46 pm

Hophead, I Don't believe I ever said they would fire, cook off they will & most likely the casing would cause more damage that anything else. In Allegheny County NG is the main heating source & becomes the biggest problem, Black power cans will also normally just accelerate the fire. I don't know the entire case they tried to prove but as I said he did get most everything back. Do I think from what I know that a big area would explode in a word "no" but as a previous VFF would I want to go into a building with known stores of black powder & firearms/ ammunition, again "NO" but the same goes for spray paint or anything in aerosol cans. I didn't get an inventory of what he had just repeating what I can remember from that time. Sorry if I offended anyone, just relating that if you make a claim or call cops make sure they only see what you want seen is all. :mad:
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Re: Don't call the cops

PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:13 pm

hophead wrote:Bullets DO NOT EXPLODE in a fire unless they are compressed, period.


That's is true for smokeless powder, but samhill mentioned black powder. Black powder explodes. Smokeless powder burns.
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