Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:26 pm

SMITTY wrote:Already heated the water up quite a bit - Have the idle control bypassed for now, just to get the water up to temp.

Careful! Don't 'splode nothin.

SMITTY wrote:Shot some vid of when I first started the stoker and blower.

I like the part where you turn it on its side. Dumping the ashes, I assume. I'm going to try that with mine.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:31 pm

Yes!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!
Couple 3 days and you'll have it dialed in and then it's smooth sailing!!!
Welcome to the Stoker Club!!! :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:39 pm

Looking good! :dancing: A bit of concern for the smoke coming from the hopper though. Is that normal?
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Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:02 pm

Not sure on that smoke, but once the fire moved down the line there, the smoke dissipated .. or got sucked back downward. I also threw a bag over the baro - that helped things too. CO alarm silent so far ... and yeah, I tested it. :lol:

Stupid camera - I thought when you tilt it sideways, the picture always stays level. That's how it shows on the display ... but when I watched it, I was saying WTF. Oh well - Glad you were amused rberq. :lol:

Thanks McGiever - I just went and tested the leads at Rob R. suggestion, and your 100% right - 24VAC. Glad I didn't hook 120 up there! Would've had 2 fires ... :lol:



SWEEEEEEEET!! Thanks guys!! :punk: :band:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:03 pm

Now here's a question for you stoker fellas: Without a manufacturer telling you what size coal to burn, could you tell just by looking at the mechanism what size it would handle? Or is it pretty much all inclined stokers burn rice?


You can burn buck but the coal will not be as tightly packed so the chance of fumes backing up into the hopper is greater. My opinion? Stick to rice. I ran buck and buck/rice mix in the Alaska and then the EFM without any issues, but the EFM seems to run just fine on rice now.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:10 pm

Thanks for that info man - appreciate it! Got 5 pallets of rice sitting down there next to the hopper, so I'm set for this winter, and hopefully part of the next. 8-)
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:16 pm

Gotta change the info in your profile now! Is it still running? How is the feed controlled--if the fire starts falling off the stoker bed into the ashpan it's overfiring, how is that adjusted? My Alaska had a primitive adjustment for the amount of coal fed with each stroke of the stoker.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:38 pm

Oh yeah, I'll have to update that. 8-)

I don't see any way to adjust anything on this one. The only control it has is that solid state idle feed control off a Reading. Seems the only way to control it is to hook a T-stat to it. Must've been for a stoker furnace. I think I'll wire up the burner leads to that units supply power .... wait ... if I do that, now there's no idle control. Hmmmmm ... yeah, gotta come up with something here. I just bought one of those variable controls to see if I can vary the stoker speed to help the burn at all. Wish I had waited though, because there seems to be TOO MUCH ash towards the edge rather than the fire falling off the edge .. but the stoker motor seems to be going as fast as it possibly can. Looked too fast when I first lit it up ... Got some things to work out yet, but at least she's finally makin' heat!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:55 pm

Fire looks good! Amazing how that little flatbed makes so much heat isn't it? As long as the fire doesn't fall off the end of the grate don't sweat it.

Keep that bottle away from the boiler, don't want any explosions! :blowup:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:38 pm

toothy :punk:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:45 pm

That bed looks perfect. It looks like about 90-95% output, based on how far the coals are down on the grates.
Nice! No more coaled rums! errr... rooms!
What was in that bottle??? :crazy: :whistle: :cheers:

SMITTY wrote:Oh yeah, I'll have to update that. 8-)

I don't see any way to adjust anything on this one. The only control it has is that solid state idle feed control off a Reading. Seems the only way to control it is to hook a T-stat to it. Must've been for a stoker furnace. I think I'll wire up the burner leads to that units supply power .... wait ... if I do that, now there's no idle control. Hmmmmm ... yeah, gotta come up with something here. I just bought one of those variable controls to see if I can vary the stoker speed to help the burn at all. Wish I had waited though, because there seems to be TOO MUCH ash towards the edge rather than the fire falling off the edge .. but the stoker motor seems to be going as fast as it possibly can. Looked too fast when I first lit it up ... Got some things to work out yet, but at least she's finally makin' heat!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:49 pm

:lol:

Ok good - thanks for that info - when I shot the vid, the fire looked very weak compared to when I first lit it. Rob R. told me what to check for, and when I took a pic of the bed for him, I noticed ash clinkering up like hell out front. I poked it with the poker, and she's off and tearing again - stack temp back up where it was. 8-)

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SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:33 am

Got down to 29° here last night - coldest night of the season. Couldn't have timed this better!

Boiler water was 206°, DHW at 150°, and both the leaky ass TV room zone, and rest of the first floor were 71.6°!! After 13 hours run time, it looks like I used a bag ... maybe a bag and a half so far, and that's including heating up 41 gallons of DHW from 70° to 150°, 30+ gallons of boiler water, and 2 zones. Certainly can't complain about any of that! :verycool:

Just have some minor tweaks to make. Need to wire in the circulator to a switch instead of sticking wires into an extension cord .... :lol: ... and hook up the aquastat I just bought from Rob R..



Thanks to all you guys for your help - you know who you are!! YOU GUYS ROCK!! :punk: :band:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:47 am

Next will be a zone out to the barn. :D :idea:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Jim D.'s stoker boiler install thread

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:29 pm

Good job partner :D I knew you'd get er done!
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