A Boiler for This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool
- SMITTY
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As I have learned, you will spend more time fixing newer stuff than older stuff. Just sayin ...
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I asked seller for a few more pics, maybe you folks will have a better idea of what I'm looking at. When I spoke with the gentleman last night he referred to the upper section of unit as "the boiler part", I'm guessing he meant heat exchanger. I tried searching Stokol every way possible last night and the most I found was old advertisements, does anyone know more about these? At best this furnace might be a temporary solution until I get a boiler in place. The "yardstick" in pics is according to seller 48", or a 4ft stick.
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- carlherrnstein
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Iy havent done so allready I would ask why it was taken out of service. My grandmas/dads house had a American Radiator Company Ideal No. 7 1 pipe steam boiler that was installed in the 30s, then in the late 40s when electric came to the house grandpa had a allen stoker installed under it. That setup heated the house till 2003 and the boiler rusted through and couldnt be repaired. Thats a very good price.
What do you want to know about them? They're a 20-30 lb/hour underfeed single retort stoker of the standard residential design. The transmission seals and occasionally bearings will often need to be replaced. That's about it. If the auger is not worn out (flighting shouldn't be completely rounded off and shouldn't be dramatically smaller than the auger tube, although unless the stoker is disassembled it may be hard to tell. The stoker feed mechanism, transmission, motor, fan, etc. should work and the tuyeres should be in good (not burned out) condition; If this is true, then it's a good buy.
Forget about the sunbeam furnace; the stoker is NOT part of the furnace, it can be used w/ any boiler, furnace etc. etc. If the stoker works, it's worth buying; take the furnace too if you want it... or don't and keep looking for a boiler, but, at least now you have a stoker.
Forget about the sunbeam furnace; the stoker is NOT part of the furnace, it can be used w/ any boiler, furnace etc. etc. If the stoker works, it's worth buying; take the furnace too if you want it... or don't and keep looking for a boiler, but, at least now you have a stoker.
- Carbon12
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I still like this idea best. Not a stoker but will burn wood and Bit coal. More than enough BTU's for now. Later, can be incorporated into whatever system you ultimately install for extra heat on those -40 degree nights.
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I did ask seller why it was removed. 2 reasons, #1 he is now retired and they want to travel and with coal as only heat source it required draining pipes before they left. #2 house guests/sitters did not know how run the furnace/stoker and would allow clinkers to build to a point there was no heat.
News seals and bearings is not a problem, its what I do for a living. Are tuyeres a replaceable part? I'm guessing new replacements might be hard to come by, but if they unbolt I can make new ones, just need to know what type of steel to make them out of, again its what I do
News seals and bearings is not a problem, its what I do for a living. Are tuyeres a replaceable part? I'm guessing new replacements might be hard to come by, but if they unbolt I can make new ones, just need to know what type of steel to make them out of, again its what I do
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That is a real good price for that particular setup. Cheap. It could be your answer or your temporary solution. After looking at the pictures of some of the repairs you have accomplished, this boiler should be small stuff for you. I will say that I searched most of the states around you and didn't see any other options. There was suprisingly little. If it is a boiler, the biggest problem would be a cracked section. If it is in a middle section, it can be removed and still work. If the unit is a furnace, most parts can be fabricated out of steel and welding rod. Either way, there is still the choice of using it to burn as a hand fed or a stoker. Manual or automatic. With manual, wood is a choice also. That machine looks good to me. All business and the price negates it being a possible hunk of crap.
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As for the question " is it a boiler or a furnace?" , ask the guy how much it weighs. A boiler that size will weigh a ton or more. A furnace would most likely weigh between 700-1200 lbs. The fact that it is all together and doesn't look like the covers were removed, makes it look like a furnace. Hot air. With a domestic water coil. That stoker looks familiar too. I wouldn't be surprised if some parts weren't interchangeable with another name brand.
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Tuyeres are replaceable parts they are made of cast iron and are complicated in shape. I don't know if they could be had for that stoker or not Will Burt sells tuyeres for there stokers as well as freeman, and combustioneer tuyeres.
If the stoker is useable then that is a good price a new made stoker mechanism from Will Burt is around $10,000.
If the stoker is useable then that is a good price a new made stoker mechanism from Will Burt is around $10,000.
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OH be still - my Heart and I suppose your pickup has a 6.5 diesel enginedalmatiangirl61 wrote: News seals and bearings is not a problem, its what I do for a living.
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I say get a boiler and go with victorian cast iron radiators. I think they would look good in the dungeon. The exposed piping will give off alot of heat too. Someone else that likes radiators. Long live the radiator.
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My thought is that if the 2,000 sq-ft to be heated are not walled off from the remaining 4,000 sq-ft, you are effectively heating the entire 6,000 sq-ft whether you know it or not.
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Hi guys, sorry its been a busy weekend. I went and picked up the Stokol stoker on friday, and the furnace, although I'm not sure the furnace is worth fooling with. The stoker is a Stokol Hydraulic Drive stoker that I cannot find a lick of information on, so I'm not really sure what I got. It does appear to be well built, cast iron auger tube, a heavy auger, and a variable speed gear box to drive the auger. Gear box is definitely going to need some new seals, but it sure would be nice to know what I'm getting into before I open that sucker up, I hate it when springs and ball bearings fly out and you have to WAG where they go.