A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:43 pm

I love the educational part of this site.
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Who would be capable of giving this unique home an honest heat loss appraisal? At the end of the day, and after spending some jack, how could you trust it?
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:05 pm

It's same as any place else except a lot more of it. Just a lot more work like everything else about the place.
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: Rigar On: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:16 pm

dalmatiangirl61 wrote:No earthly idea how big the boiler was, but considering how drafty this place was, and uninsulated walls on the upper floors, it must have been huge! From historical accounts, the boiler room was the warmest room in the building, the kids would hide in here after swimming to warm up :) . The 50 ft horizontal run would be to get a steam pipe into pool room, the chimney has a short horizontal run out bricked-up basement window, then 50 ft vertical run up side of building.

Just to clarify, I'm only interested in heating the basement for now, and I'm willing to accept just heating my living area in the coldest months. When/if the upper floors are restored they will be framed out and well insulated, I will worry about that when I get a sugar daddy, billionaire investor, win lottery etc, then no expense will be spared :yearight:


...i know this this isnt a dating site....
but i have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that 'sting' is single

.....no doubt :wtf:
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: dalmatiangirl61 On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:59 am

Rigar wrote:
dalmatiangirl61 wrote:...i know this this isnt a dating site....
but i have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that 'sting' is single

.....no doubt :wtf:


Does Sting have a couple of million dollar life insurance policies that are up to date? If so I'd gladly give him a chance :D . My only experience with boilers is the home I grew up in, it had an old coal fired boiler that had been converted to natural gas, it was good for disposing of things like report cards, head gear for braces, and hideous horned rim glasses, I'm thinking a desicated body would burn well too :) . Any idea what the btu output of desicated bodies is?
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:02 am

Any idea what the btu output of desicated bodies is?

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No where near as good as half the weight in coal! :D -20 or -40 ?:shock: Well at least its a dry cold ....
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:36 am

Holy freeking rehab! that's a giant project Dal Girl :clap: I love those columns in the pool area... I cant even imagine all that is entailed in completing this but id like to follow its progression!

I assume you have no access to anthracite coal in your area? their was a thread about EFM soft coal burning here efm Bituminous boiler testing is next week
(lots of people here know about EFM's), If you can access anthracite I'm sure that opens up a lot of alternatives and options.
Judging by the size of that building it appears to be similar to photo's and video's of commercial buildings that run approx. 1 million BTU coal boilers (Im totally spit ballin' here but when Im looking at commercial building with 1.5 BTU coal boilers w/chillers they are larger than your building)... after looking at all I could find im going to say 1million BTU coal boiler is suggested for that building (and that's my best guess, which is a total guess).

I hope some others can help out with some suggestions/options
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:58 am

.....rule # 4 dcrane :lol:
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:23 am

In the age of expensive energy I would design the whole building around the weather (especially plumbing). Enjoy the whole building in the summer and like a castle keep retreat in various stages like a war. Parts will be closed at say zero degrees, -20 and -40 (where all the stuff that freezes is kept). Now size accordingly hence maintaining your sanity and bank account. Unless you marry sting and his wealth it will save a fortune. His last wife was seen running screaming from Lower Fox Valley WI yelling no more rules and I hope you like cheese.
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: blrman07 On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:29 am

Now that was a waste of my bandwidth and had absolutely nothing to do with this post.

Rev. Larry
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:33 am

and so rev that shows you missed the whole point
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:10 am

I will guess he meant the "list" posted by Sting.

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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:36 am

If you're thinking about burning anthracite in nevada, you might as well burn heating oil. If you're looking to save some serious money and stay warm, the only real option is a bituminous underfeed stoker - these regularly show up in the nevada, colorado, utah etc. craigslists. I know, because I check them.

Utah has some very good bituminous coals. As far as the EFM goes, if it had a 2.75" auger tube, it would burn pea bit great, but I'm not convinced that it would hold up for any duration burning pea coal w/ the tiny auger that it has.
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: Pacowy On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:54 am

coalnewbie wrote:In the age of expensive energy I would design the whole building around the weather (especially plumbing). Enjoy the whole building in the summer and like a castle keep retreat in various stages like a war. Parts will be closed at say zero degrees, -20 and -40 (where all the stuff that freezes is kept). Now size accordingly hence maintaining your sanity and bank account. Unless you marry sting and his wealth it will save a fortune. His last wife was seen running screaming from Lower Fox Valley WI yelling no more rules and I hope you like cheese.


I think the retreat concept ties in well with her idea of just trying to heat the dungeon for now. It should keep the size of the required system much more manageable.

Two questions for Kristin:

1. Just to confirm, are there no remnants of any past heat distribution systems (radiators, ducts, etc.) for the rooms in the dungeon?

2. Berlin beat me to it, but what do your bituminous coal supply options look like? AFAIK bit coal is mined in Utah and Colorado, but I don't know whether anybody out there produces "stoker"-sized bit. This could affect burner/boiler options. You probably should be thinking in terms of truckload quantities of bulk coal. One of the rooms in the dungeon probably has or had a small opening (window or hatch) near the ceiling to accommodate coal deliveries. If that area can be restored for that purpose, it should make your coal logistics easier. If that area is now your dungeon kitchen, uhhh, nevermind. :lol:

Mike
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Re: A Boiler For This Old Dungeon With A Swimming Pool

PostBy: Sting On: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:46 pm

dalmatiangirl61 wrote: Any idea what the btu output of desicated bodies is?


Uncle Bobby Ray fell into a whiskey vat - Some men tied to pull him out but he fought them off and drowned.

We had him cremated - He burned for three days!
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