high mpg alternative

Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:40 pm

Flyer5 wrote:The nice thing about the MT on the diesels is not a lot of shifting because of the available torque.


sure, sure....rub it in......you gotta mt and i don't....... :poke: ;)
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:50 pm

titleist1 wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:The nice thing about the MT on the diesels is not a lot of shifting because of the available torque.


sure, sure....rub it in......you gotta mt and i don't....... :poke: ;)



:) :oops:
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:53 pm

Well I haven't decided on a new vehicle but I did decide against the Jetta Sportwagen TDI. Besides the high cost for normal maintenance, the high pressure fuel pumps are failing making a 8-10 k repair job. Also the EGR valves and catalytic convertors have problems. Don't need the aggrevation. Sales person was not pleased when I told her. Search continues.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:08 pm

Cost of ownership involves a lot more than just fuel economy.

What other requirements do you have?
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:26 pm

I tried like hell to get a TDi VW. We have had 5 VW's now and they have been great. I also need a beater and looked everywhere but the prices were ridiculous for old high mileage vehicles. Still considering a gas VW however. My gas bill is running $500 + a month with my 2012 Ram 1500 Tradsman with a small V8. Towing my 14 ft. tool trailer is painful on the MPG.

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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:27 pm

KLook wrote:Towing my 14 ft. tool trailer is painful on the MPG.


It will be painful on anything in front of it.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:14 pm

coalkirk wrote:Well I haven't decided on a new vehicle but I did decide against the Jetta Sportwagen TDI. Besides the high cost for normal maintenance, the high pressure fuel pumps are failing making a 8-10 k repair job. Also the EGR valves and catalytic convertors have problems. Don't need the aggrevation. Sales person was not pleased when I told her. Search continues.



I think these issues have been addressed on the 2013s 2014s. I don't believe the passat had these issues either. As far as normal maintenance costs look for a good VW guru ( there are lists in the TDI forum) in your area not the stealer. Or do it yourself with youtube if you are mechanically inclined they are pretty simple to work on and parts are pretty cheap. So far my maintenance costs have been pretty low. I just passed 288,000
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:19 pm

I have a 2001 TDI Jetta that I took over from the wife. She got the new Chevy Impala and is constantly bitching about how much more fuel costs her. I dumped my '08 Duramax four door after rebuilding a 350 for the haul job truck. It's great. Yes that Duramax was a real ass kicking truck. A blast to drive. Powerful with all kinds of torque. But the fuel just was a real killer. What I would pay for a weeks worth of driving in the truck now gets me two months worth with the Jetta. The Jetta is a real sporty car too. If you know the torque band, it is quick on the short track. I too change the oil frequently and replace the timing belt every 60k miles. If I drive slow it gets over 50mpg. Sure would like to know how much weight you are pulling/towing Dave. What kind of trailer hitch?
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:24 pm

Scottscoaled wrote:I have a 2001 TDI Jetta that I took over from the wife. She got the new Chevy Impala and is constantly bitching about how much more fuel costs her. I dumped my '08 Duramax four door after rebuilding a 350 for the haul job truck. It's great. Yes that Duramax was a real ass kicking truck. A blast to drive. Powerful with all kinds of torque. But the fuel just was a real killer. What I would pay for a weeks worth of driving in the truck now gets me two months worth with the Jetta. The Jetta is a real sporty car too. If you know the torque band, it is quick on the short track. I too change the oil frequently and replace the timing belt every 60k miles. If I drive slow it gets over 50mpg. Sure would like to know how much weight you are pulling/towing Dave. What kind of trailer hitch?



Got the hitch from Uhaul. Most I have had counting the trailer was about 2000# . Mostly I will pull the jetski or something light. And still get over 40mpg with the jetski in tow.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: JRDepew On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:27 pm

The olds 350 diesels were definitely designed to be diesels. They were complete turds and had a lot of issues, including main caps issues. From what I hear, the main bolts didn't thread as far into the block as they should have for maximum holding power, and this caused all sorts of issues.

It is common for die-hard oldsmobile guys to find these diesel 350 block, take them to a machine shop to bore the piss out of them, install main studs and head studs, and then gasser heads. They end up with a large displacement engine with tons of meat still left in the cylinder walls, and it just looks like a olds small block. Quite a few guys making tons of power with this setup.

I have a couple friends that had TDI's and LOVED the mileage. A guy I work with just bought a TDI jetta a few months ago and loves it as well.

Thanks,
Joe
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:14 pm

JRDepew wrote:The olds 350 diesels were definitely designed to be diesels. They were complete turds and had a lot of issues, including main caps issues. From what I hear, the main bolts didn't thread as far into the block as they should have for maximum holding power, and this caused all sorts of issues.

Thanks,
Joe


Not so sure the bottom ends EVER gave up on the olds350d. My dad had one when I was a kid. Injection pumps seemed to be the biggest problem he had. I bet he swapped ten IP's into a 1978 Cadillac fleet wood over the time he owned it. It got 30 mpg and had a whopping 105 hp! 205 ftlbs torque. Your not taking the bottom end out with them kinds if numbers.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:24 pm

I picked up a used 2009 Scion xB, I know some people think they are ugly, but I like it, cause it's different. I bought it so I didn't have to drive my F150 gas hog everyday back and forth to work about 30+ miles a day. It only had 12K miles, it's Gas, not diesel, but averaging about 28-32MPG+. has TONS of room to haul stuff. No frills, but does have basic stuff, power windows, power locks, cruise, A/C.5 speed standard trans. I can get 2"x4" X 8 Foot in it. They just fit! lol
Really fun car to drive.!
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:28 pm

Good luck with it. Guy I work with just lost his to a tree falling on it and ending its career. Broke his heart because he was just about to roll 300k.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:43 pm

Just saw a Jeep commercial with a 6 cyl diesel. Interesting. I don't want one, well sort of do. Maybe its a start of more diesels coming to the market here.
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Re: high mpg alternative

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:20 pm

New diesels kinda suck.
I have owned my 1997 F350 7.3 since new. It has all of the attributes that made diesels desirable.
I also have a Dodge 3500 6.7 emissions compliant of course. This truck makes me have second thoughts on ever buying a diesel truck ever again. Fuel mileage is horrific, can't idle it for fear of clogging the DPF. Was able to get one with a manual trans but...the transfer case is electronic. WTF? Front axle is always engaged no matter what. It just doesn't give me the feeling that I can depend on it in any situation.

Old ford wins hands down and the miles I put on them every year proves it.
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