Stove Sizing

Stove Sizing

PostBy: Loco627 On: Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:37 pm

Hello All! I'm new here and a complete rookie to the coal world. There's a ridiculous amount of information on this forum and I've been reading for days. I've decided I'm about done paying oil bills and freezing all winter to save money. I am ready to venture into the world of coal. I think it's something I'll enjoy and don't mind putting in the time. Mostly, I think I just enjoy the challenge. I'm planning to purchase a HotBlast furnace in the very near future. i understand they aren't the finest on the planet, but it's what fits the budget and there seems to be a fairly large number of folks on here making them work. My question is which size to get. My home is under 1400 square feet of living space and an unfinished basement. The smallest stove is rated for 1900 square feet. The next one up is 2500. I don't see anyone using the small one. Would the small one work for me? Would I be able to someday get 12 hour burns out of it. I don't mind getting the larger one if that would be more efficient and allow for longer burn times. I appreciate any help. I'm sure this will be the first of a million questions I need help with! Thanks!
Loco627
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Circulator 1500
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: 1500 Circulator

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: LDPosse On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:21 am

Welcome to the forum! Knowing where you're located would be a big help in determining what size of stove you will need, and possibly which type of coal you will burn.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Loco627 On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:30 am

That would be helpful info! I'm in south eastern PA, just east of Lancaster. I intend to burn stove sized anthracite.
Loco627
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Circulator 1500
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: 1500 Circulator

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Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: LDPosse On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:42 am

Just wondering - have you checked out DS Machine? They are also located just east of Lancaster, in Gordonville. They make awesome stoves and they make hot air furnaces as well. Their prices are extremely competitive, and the stoves designed to burn anthracite coal. The hotblast stoves are designed for bituminous coal. If you're set on the hotblast though, I'm sure there are some folks who could chime in about them.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Loco627 On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:48 am

I have not, but I most certainly will check them out. I don't have my heart set on anything yet. If someone comes along and tells me what they think is a better stove for similar money, I'm all for it. Thanks!
Loco627
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Circulator 1500
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: 1500 Circulator

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: oliver power On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:49 am

Personally, I'd buy from a stove shop / manufacturer, not a chain store.
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:32 am

oliver power wrote:Personally, I'd buy from a stove shop / manufacturer, not a chain store.



...ditto

i would also shop around for a quality used one (theyre out there)
and welcome to the forum!
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:05 am

if you must keep to a budget.look for a used one.the DS stoves are a much better for burning and will help a newbie than the hot blast/USS products.Welcome and good luck and keep asking away.
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Loco627 On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:10 am

Does pricing exist somewhere on the internet for DS Machine? There's very little info out there for them. Can I buy straight from the manufacturer? They are just 14 miles down the road from me.
Loco627
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Circulator 1500
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: 1500 Circulator

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Bruce M On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:19 am

Figure somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 dollars for a new basement hand fired stove from DS. the info on them is a little hard to come by on the net since they are an Amish run company, you can find a dealer in your area I'm sure and he'd be able to hook you up. As said before, stay away from big box on this purchase, you will regret it.
Bruce M
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1627 basement stove

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Bruce M On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:23 am

Oh heck you're right down the road from them then that's where I would go to talk to them. I'm not sure but you may be able to buy direct, take a drive you'll like what you see.
Bruce M
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1627 basement stove

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: buffalo bob On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:32 am

Bruce M wrote:Oh heck you're right down the road from them then that's where I would go to talk to them. I'm not sure but you may be able to buy direct, take a drive you'll like what you see.


man if ur that close thats where i would buy, not far from service/parts.. i have a hot blast that i use for back up in below 0 weather, i only burn wood in it..maybe ds would have a factory second...
buffalo bob
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 354
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:09 am

Loco627 wrote:Mostly, I think I just enjoy the challenge. I'm planning to purchase a HotBlast furnace in the very near future. i understand they aren't the finest on the planet, but it's what fits the budget and there seems to be a fairly large number of folks on here making them work.


Hi Loco, welcome aboard :D I have a Clayton 1537G which is prit near identicle to the hot blast 1500 model.. THe other members are right, these furnaces are a bit handicapped when it comes to burning anthracite. I bought a used furnace for $650 in excellent condition. I've done a lot of trial and error with modifications to achieve a good burn. This is my third year with her (we call her Ashley :lol: ).. She can run with the big dogs now. I can get 24 hour burn times in mild weather burning about 30-40 pounds per day. In the colder months I do a 14/10 hour schedule (two reloads per day) and burn 40-60 pounds per day. I've seen 80 pounds per day when daytime highs don't exceed 15 degrees outside which is usually a short term event. I'm heating 2400 square feet, furnace is in the basement, we enjoy a 72-75 degree range throughout the house.. Don't be afraid to get a furnace that is a little over-sized.. I will eventually upgrade to something easier to maintain in the future, but for now we are content with Ashley :D
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Bootstrap On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:17 am

I'm not impressed with anything from chain stores. Also, instead of a furnace, have you just considered a hand fed stove? If your not heating the basement you would burn less coal by having a hand fed stove up stairs and you get to look at the fire too. Its not very messy.
I run my stove in the basement, it heats the whole house. I do that because we actively use the basement and there is no heat down there.
Bootstrap
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 30-95

Re: Stove Sizing

PostBy: Loco627 On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:47 am

I just assumed a furnace would heat it more efficiently. I don't have the space for it upstairs and was trying to avoid running a new chimney. The basement is mostly unfinished and I would think I'm going to lose a lot of heat wicking through the cinder block walls. If that is not the case, I'd actually prefer a stove that would run without electric.
Loco627
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Circulator 1500
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: 1500 Circulator

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