Starting a coal fire

Starting a coal fire

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:14 pm

I must say friends up here in the north country use everything from mice to paper bags full of crushed charcoal etc etc. I heard horror stories on trying to get coal lit, but I'm finding it really easy and have allot of practice. I'm using a quart tin can with both ends cut off, with a vee cut on the bottom to light it. Newspaper on bottom , handfull of wood pellets, and a handfull of rice coal on top. I set it on the stoker, with fan and stoker running start the newspaper with a lp torch and 2 minutes later pull the can out and add more rice on top. Found it youtube, seems to work great. Of course the tin can works for maybe two lights and its hosed!!!!!!
So what is a better way? I figure 2 to 2 1/2 minutes for rice is pretty fast, but this is my first year ever heating with coal so any better ideas would be appreciated. Though with the warm days and cool nights I'm getting allot of practice, that and a teenage daughter and her 1/2 hr showers i am loving this coal boiler! Did I say LOVE it. well i do :junmp:
nuthcuntrynut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: wl110 leisure line
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: ussc pellet stove
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: PaGuy On: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:53 pm

The best way I have found to start my stoker is with a heat gun. Turn off the combustion fan and use the gun on high with the output of the gun right up against the coal until its fired up. Takes about 3 minutes. super clean and you don't have to buy anything. Try it, you'll like it.

John
PaGuy
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Econo

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:03 pm

Have an insert and I just toss in some wood pellets and about 4 oz. of accellerant then start the pellets ... once started, toss in some small 2by4s wait for them to start burning and then add coal slowly ... then a bed of coal is burning and add small layer after layer until box is full..I keep the ash pan open until 1/2 the box is burning good, then close it up and leave the air open full until done after that.

About 1 hr to 1 1/2 hrs until a full box is there...
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503


Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: kstills On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:03 pm

nuthcuntrynut wrote:I must say friends up here in the north country use everything from mice to paper bags full of crushed charcoal etc etc. I heard horror stories on trying to get coal lit, but I'm finding it really easy and have allot of practice. I'm using a quart tin can with both ends cut off, with a vee cut on the bottom to light it. Newspaper on bottom , handfull of wood pellets, and a handfull of rice coal on top. I set it on the stoker, with fan and stoker running start the newspaper with a lp torch and 2 minutes later pull the can out and add more rice on top. Found it youtube, seems to work great. Of course the tin can works for maybe two lights and its hosed!!!!!!
So what is a better way? I figure 2 to 2 1/2 minutes for rice is pretty fast, but this is my first year ever heating with coal so any better ideas would be appreciated. Though with the warm days and cool nights I'm getting allot of practice, that and a teenage daughter and her 1/2 hr showers i am loving this coal boiler! Did I say LOVE it. well i do :junmp:


I've been starting mine like this since I bought it.

I use matchlight charcoal, hit it with a torch, feed in some rice, and it's off to the races.

I may be odd, but I love to sit and watch the coal catch fire and start to build up that flame. My oil boiler never gave me this much pleasure, that's for sure.
kstills
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: WL 110
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: nuthcuntrynut On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:24 pm

i find myself watching mine allot as well, love to see that turbo action as the flames rise a foot over the top of the can. coal is new to me, but i never really cared to watch my owb start up
nuthcuntrynut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: wl110 leisure line
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: ussc pellet stove
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: hcarlow On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:16 pm

I have the same boiler as you do , not that it makes much difference . I use a soup can of easy start charcoal broken up and put a good amount of gel starter on it and light it . I do use the metal device on the end of the grate that comes with the boiler . When the charcoal gets going good I put a little rice coal around it with some on top and turn on the combustion fan and the way it goes . When it is going really good I knock off the metal piece into the ash pan . Try and put the metal device up on the grate a couple inches so you don't lose the burning coal when you knock it off .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: rbelden On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:19 pm

Like other people have mentioned earlier, Matchlight charcoal has never let me down. Fire it up and let it burn for 10-15 minutes, and then dump the coal on top and it always works. I use pea coal, others have suggested using rice since it will burn faster, but pea works fine, it just takes slightly longer to get going. I do have my coal boiler outside in a shed, so the lighter fluid smell/fumes from the Matchlight charcoal is not an issue for me, but make sure you have a blower venting the fumes out during startup. Just my experience, not an expert, so use caution and good judgment always.
rbelden
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alternate Heating Systems
Stove/Furnace Model: Coal Gun S260

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:23 pm

I have also used Matchlight. It worked fine, but the fumes are pretty strong until things get heated up. Last time I had to restart I used Cowboy lump charcoal...much less fumes, and it really catches quick.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: hcarlow On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:29 pm

rbelden wrote:Like other people have mentioned earlier, Matchlight charcoal has never let me down. Fire it up and let it burn for 10-15 minutes, and then dump the coal on top and it always works. I use pea coal, others have suggested using rice since it will burn faster, but pea works fine, it just takes slightly longer to get going. I do have my coal boiler outside in a shed, so the lighter fluid smell/fumes from the Matchlight charcoal is not an issue for me, but make sure you have a blower venting the fumes out during startup. Just my experience, not an expert, so use caution and good judgment always.


You are so right , that matchlight charcoal sure does have an odor to it . I am going to try some regular charcoal with the gel starer next time and see how that works . I can't imagine using that matchlight charcoal for cooking food on it , I don't care how long it has been burning .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

Re: Starting a coal fire

PostBy: Greyhound On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:00 pm

I will second the vote for lump charcoal. I use a charcoal lighter "can" with a handle on it, a little newspaper in the bottom and let it get going good, outside and then dump it into the stove, throw a little coal on top and turn on the blower. Works every time :!:
Greyhound
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 105
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Lenox Oil HA, Heat Pump