And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:04 pm

By God, I'll admit that I tried a few things & I even inhaled (otherwise why even try) when I was young & irresponsible I was young & irresponsible. Don't know if that's him or not, they all look alike :o :rofl: . I would much rather have someone that owns up to things than denies. I sure wouldn't qualify to throw any stones yet alone the first. 8-)
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: Rwalker On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:20 pm

On one hand you defend the old way of ever rising medical costs because of the medical lobby's & the other you praise the one's willing to step out of the norm.


That very well be a picture of samhill hitting that bong. :P I don't think I have ever defended the old way, but if I was a doctor, and a good one at that, one that saves lives and plays god on a regular basis, I would want to be able to charge as much as I felt my services were worth. I have never heard a dying man complain about medical costs and tell the doc to just let him die.

The doctor in that article states he makes $200,000 a year. Not too shabby for a family doc. A cash system works. For some families, $10 a kid and $30 an adult would be far less then what they are paying in insurance costs. And a lot of these doctors still make house calls. Imagine that.

If I didn't have morals and I could look myself in the mirror, I would talk the wife into pumping out a few more kids, quit my job, and let the government take care of us. They would pay my mortgage, give us food, free medical care, maybe even get me a sweet car to drive! Damn my father and his persistent work ethic.

Oh wait, what do I do when they run out of money and the system collapses???
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:02 pm

You know something that sounds real strange, I don't know of anyone that gets everything that keeps getting claimed on welfare, maybe it's just my state or just the people on it that I know. Then again I don't know for sure as things change but I know that if you owned a home back when you couldn't get welfare & if for some reason you did get it then a lean was put against what you owned. In any event I have always hated welfare for any abled bodied person beyond a limited time, as with everything there was & is a need for some things but it's "both Parties" that allow them to get out of hand.
As for that Doc making $200k a year, you have to have a lot of people that are in your program & are relatively healthy to be making that & taking time with patients, sound familiar, it just may work. :idea:
I was just running the #s in my head & that Doc said there is another one with him & even if you were to use the $100/mo for elderly he would have to be running people thru there on a conveyer belt.
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:18 pm

samhill wrote:By God, I'll admit that I tried a few things & I even inhaled (otherwise why even try) when I was young & irresponsible I was young & irresponsible. Don't know if that's him or not, they all look alike :o :rofl: . I would much rather have someone that owns up to things than denies. I sure wouldn't qualify to throw any stones yet alone the first. 8-)


Sam no offense I wouldn't vote for you for president of the U S either. :P
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:22 pm

Damn, & I thought I'd be a shoe in. The least you could do is send some cash, I won't disclose anything. :shh:
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: Rwalker On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:51 am

Better look again. I am also in PA. Welfare, WIC, free medical, heat assistance, the list goes on and on is dependent on family size and income. Period. Makes no difference if you own a home or not. And I personally know people who have defaulted on their mortgages in order to get the government to step in and help: http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/pages/default.aspx.

Obama's plan is to make the middle class poor and make the poor the new middle class. You shouldn't be paying for your groceries at Wal-Mart with an IPhone in your hand... 8-)
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:18 am

Like I said RW, for some odd reason I know of some that really can't get crap but I also only know what I've been told. Both are disabled, one with heart problems & the other with MS but having typed that I recall that they could get some type of rent help but they are living rent free & they wanted the property owner to say they were renting but they wanted the rent money. It's a strange world, it wasn't at the front of my memory because I thought it was long ago but then I guess all this just started with Obama since you say it's so. :roll:
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:45 pm

samhill wrote:Like I said RW, for some odd reason I know of some that really can't get crap but I also only know what I've been told. Both are disabled, one with heart problems & the other with MS but having typed that I recall that they could get some type of rent help but they are living rent free & they wanted the property owner to say they were renting but they wanted the rent money. It's a strange world, it wasn't at the front of my memory because I thought it was long ago but then I guess all this just started with Obama since you say it's so. :roll:



This didn't start with O ( I can't even stand to see the full name) But it sure has ballooned since 2010. I don't ever recall seeing on tv or hearing on the radio advertisements for food stamps and free phones. The past 2 or 3 yrs I have multiple times.
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:01 pm

Not sure but that there biggest recession ever thing might have a wee bit to do with that. I think (& only a guess) that whenever UC is up & all these jobs are lost then welfare might go up as well but hey what do I know, until we start doing something in this country to create some more jobs then there ain't gonna be much work. To be fair there are quite a few jobs out there but the American way is that everyone wants a paycheck but no one wants to do work & there again that's to fault of both sides for a long time. :mad:
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:10 pm

A tax on sporting/hunting equipment is nothing new. We learned about it when I took my hunter safety courses.

http://www.hunter-ed.com/rhodeisland/st ... _700064631

The Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act, popularly known as the Pittman-Robertson Act, was approved by Congress in 1937.

Funds for the Act come from an 11% federal excise tax on sporting arms, ammunition, and archery equipment, and a 10% tax on handguns. One-half of the excise tax on handguns and archery equipment is used for hunter education and target ranges. These funds are collected from the manufacturers and are distributed each year to the states and territorial areas by the Department of the Interior.

Each state’s proportion of the federal funds is based on the area of the state and the number of licensed hunters in the state. The state covers the full amount of an approved project and then applies for reimbursement through federal aid for up to 75% of the project’s expenses; the state is responsible for the other 25% of the project’s cost.
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:13 pm

samhill wrote: it's on the manufacturer so paid at that point.


ONLY consumers pay taxes. You don't think Smith and Wesson is eating that cost do you? It's in the retail price you pay when you buy the product.
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:47 pm

No Jpete, it's always included in the cost of doing business which gets included into the price of the product, only fair why should a producer pay tax of any kind for any thing but it's just the way it is until it reaches the last one in the line & they have no one to pass it onto. The taxes were put on so they could be deducted as a business cost so in reality they get two deductions for the same product how else do you think they could afford to pay all those high prices lobbyists & kickbacks. :o
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:55 pm

Well there we agree.

Except one of us thinks it's fine and dandy when democrats do it but is more evil than Hitler when republicans do it.

I'll let you figure out which one of us I'm referring to.
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:22 pm

No Jpete, because you are all knowing in what I think why not just show me where I have ever said that both sides are at fault?
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Re: And now my favorite hobby funds Obummercare!

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:52 pm

Save it Sam. We all know you blame the Republicans for everything from the crucifixion of Christ to the last time you ran out of milk.
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