Variable speed control

Variable speed control

PostBy: hardcoal On: Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:25 pm

Just about time to set up my Kodiak Hand Fired Gravity Fed Coal Stove for supplementary basement heat. Purchased a dual cage Kodiak H F Blower to mount on the stove. Question - Is there some type of speed control/or method that I can use on the blower to be able to vary the speed and/or turn it off without unplugging it when not in use? Just a thought! I believe the blower has an induction type motor. Not sure if a small AC/DC controller would work, dimmer switch, etc.

What say ye? Any an all suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thank you very much & keep warm. HC
hardcoal
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Alaskan Hot Water Boiler circa 70's
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaskan Manual Coal Stove - August 2013
Coal Size/Type: chestnut - pea
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: hand fired boiler &

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: top top On: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:52 am

I called Alaska with questions about the Kodiac. Very nice people, BTW. Couldn't have been more helpful. They sell a speed controller for their fan. I think he said $50 plus shipping. He said it was a rheostat, so I imagine you could build your own for less. Not sure how many watts the fan draws. I would be interested in what you do.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Kodiac Hand Fired with hopper.

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:17 pm

Bought this one yrs ago from Elec outlet store or on line--I'm old---I forget :clap: toothy Not sure of price but It's a good unit--plug into wall outlet & then plug stove in. Five yrs & she still works just fine:)
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Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:37 pm

Just be sure to size control so amp rating is big enough to handle the motor amps.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
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Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
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Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: rberq On: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:49 pm

I bought a simple rheostat from Home Depot, same as you would use for light dimming. It worked fine. I was careful not to turn it so far down that the fan stopped entirely, but I could run it pretty low. Turn it all the way counter-clockwise and it clicked off. I installed it in a standard two-gang box, rheostat on one side and the controlled outlet on the other, plugged the fan into the controlled outlet.

I tried a much-more-expensive router speed control from a woodworking catalog, which contained a circuit board and did not work at all with my fan. There must be some electrical / motor principle that explains why, but you'll never get it out of me! :lol:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: Ed.A On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:23 am

This what I got last year, works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Router-Variable ... 53ffa778f5
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III/ '94 Stoker II
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: Beeman On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:30 am

Been using these for years. Work well. Available from many vendors. http://www.amazon.com/Sunlight-Supply-D ... B002U0X86Q
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
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Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:55 am

I have seen many times where folks use those $14.95 home depot variable speed controls (used for lighting often) and they to work! (I'd just keep it as far from the heat as possible).
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:33 am

freetown fred wrote:Bought this one yrs ago from Elec outlet store or on line--I'm old---I forget :clap: toothy Not sure of price but It's a good unit--plug into wall outlet & then plug stove in. Five yrs & she still works just fine:)


Fred,
It appears you crossed "fix wall" off the ole "to do list" a tad prematurely. It happens to me routinely, but my spousal unit is always at the ready to remind me what I must have merely "forgot" to do. I know from your previous posts about your spousal situation and bein' the kind citizen I am ,I thought Id just mention it :P
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Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:05 am

Spousal unit took the money I'd set aside for that repair plus everything else but my balls. At least her name is off the deed:) It still remains on my--we'll get to it list :clap: toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:08 am

^^^ :rofl:
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Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: the snowman On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:36 am

The router control units are meant to control motors with brushes not a brushless motor as most small fan motors tend to be brushless. I have made and used a rheostat on a gang box with an outlet on one side, however, I found when controlling a fan motor the slower you set the rheostat the more touchy it became. I also didn't like the over all size of the unit. The dial a temp units work very well. Just plug the fan in the unit and plug the unit into an outlet, turn the dial to desired fan speed. The dial a temp units work well on all brushless motors. The dial a temp units also have an off position so you do not have to unplug the fan to turn it off.

The snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
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Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: JohnB On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:22 pm

Beeman wrote:Been using these for years. Work well. Available from many vendors. http://www.amazon.com/Sunlight-Supply-D ... B002U0X86Q


That's what came with my new 50-93. Even on low the motor/blower unit is still spinning at a decent speed.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Hitzer 50-93

Re: Variable speed control UPDATE

PostBy: hardcoal On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:40 pm

Not sure how this will post on the forum but wanted to thank all that shared their expertise. I called Alaska today an was told that the blower is what they call a Shade-Pole design, if that makes sense/cents?? With all the scripture that was posted and the terrific information I decided to purchase a digital AC controller I saw posted on eBay and pretty sure it will perform with this blower.

I will just have to use a gang box I have to install the components. The dial a temp unit was perfect, but I'm rather thrifty and couldn't bring myself to spending for one. :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/251346298490?ss ... 1497.l2649 this is the link to the unit I purchased. Thought some of you may like to know what I came up with. Hope this helps?

Thank you all again. You not only helped me but I'm sure there are others that will benefit from our discussions. Kindest regards - HC
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Alaskan Hot Water Boiler circa 70's
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaskan Manual Coal Stove - August 2013
Coal Size/Type: chestnut - pea
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: hand fired boiler &

Re: Variable speed control

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:47 pm

That is exactly what I have recommended here a few times previously.
You will find it to do a very fine job for you.
If you need any assistance with how to wire it, just give a shout. :)
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

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