New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:13 pm

Yes the hopper was full to the top.

The stoker is 8" comming off the top. And 8" right thru the roof. The chimney pipe is 21' long not counting the elbows.

Replaced the gaskets and blocked the blower by 50% will know in about 2 to 3 hrs.
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:40 pm

Well it still fired up quick with 50% less air to the blowers. Just lowered it to go to min. fire. co detectors at 0. no smell. Will keep a watch on it for another hr. Stove temperatute side panels 407 degrees. chimney temperature 143 degrees.
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:36 pm

Well I think I got it. It ramped down nice. No smell no co. will let it do its job all night and check it in the morning.
Thanks everyone for the replys.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

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Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: Rigar On: Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:53 pm

good news ( so far)...!!!
hope that did the trick !....ur still getting a mano right? :D
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:29 am

vipers95 wrote:Well it still fired up quick with 50% less air to the blowers. Just lowered it to go to min. fire. co detectors at 0. no smell. Will keep a watch on it for another hr. Stove temperatute side panels 407 degrees. chimney temperature 143 degrees.


good news... so were the new combustion fan just to overpowering for the chimney/draft? let us know in morning... this is a good thread
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:59 am

The combustion fan were overpowering the combustion chamber.

When I cut the air back, there was no more sulpher smell or no co either.

Had to cut the max burn on the coal trol from 28 back to 15 or it would drop the fire in the ash pan.
When it was running at full air the side of the stoker shot with a digital gun was 417 degrees. Now it is only 345 degrees and cannot get over it.

Will order a manometer today. will find out just how much draft I do have.

Will keep you posted.
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:03 am

Also forgot to mention, A friend stopped in and took a 12 oz cup of the coal. He washed it and dried it out. There was about 55% actual coal 40%
Slate and 5% rocks and wood. Not to good..
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:05 am

Thanks for the update. I hope you ordered the manometer with next day delivery! We all seem to be an impatient bunch when it comes to draft readings! Lol!
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:38 am

good news on the fix, glad you got it figured out. how did you cut back the air intake on the combustion fan, tape as you mentioned earlier? i know others have used flat refrigerator magnets on the fan cage to restrict airflow or they came up with a home engineered metal baffle plate that mimics what is on the harman combustion fans.

this is important info for new stoker users to be able to search on....

if you have more combustion air forced into the firebox via the fans(s) than the exhaust can get rid of through its draft, then it has to come out somewhere whether it be the hopper, faulty stoker gasket, window air wash vent, etc.

indications this is happening - like you experienced is the co reading on a monitor &/or rotten egg sulfur smell or moisture on the inside of the hopper lid.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
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Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:53 am

Seems many coal heating appliances come with a carbon monoxide detector. Might be a good idea to include a manometer or at least offer one at cost to buyers. Manometers really are not an optional piece of equipment and it would greatly increase safety for new coal burners and decrease service calls for the dealers.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:02 pm

Got a model 25 manomater, with a cold stove there was maybe -.005 in stove and chimney.
Started the fire ONE side only with full combustion air (NO TAPE OVER THE INLET) draft started at -.01 when it got going went to -.05 readjusted the barometer (since it is windy today) it now stays at -.03
Are they good figures?? Thanks
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:10 pm

Your stove manual states -.04 to -.06 draft. Draft will change with outdoor temperatures, wind conditions and burn temperature. Not exactly set once and forget. I check my draft once a day if weather stable, more often if rapidly changing weather conditions.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: vipers95 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:21 pm

Should I adjust the barometer to get more draft? the side of the burner is now 324 degrees and the chimney is 118 degrees
vipers95
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Susquehanna

Re: New to the coals stoker world. High co numbers

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:25 pm

Yup, just adjust the baro damper to get .04-.06 under current conditions.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

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