pipe on harman markII

pipe on harman markII

PostBy: GAMESNIPER On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:39 am

do i need any dampners in stove pipe off of stove... i purchased a this stove used.. couple of friends said harmen dont want anything in stove pipe can anyone answer my concern
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Stove/Furnace Make: HARMAN
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:43 am

I would think a minumum would be a "barometric damper", DO A search on here for them. this controls the heat going up your chimney.
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:16 pm

Harman's manual specificly states to not install a manual damper in the flue pipe. Depending on how well your chimney draws, how consistant the draw is, and several other variables, you may not need a baro damper, you may be able to control your fire very well just with the air inlet controls [spinner knobs] on the ashpan door. [as long as the gaskets on the doors are in good shape]

A baro is a good idea, and once set up is a good device to even out the changes in draft from temperature changes, wind, and fire output changes.

Hope this helps. Greg L

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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: GAMESNIPER On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:51 pm

where should the baro dampner be installed in pipe any specific location?
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:52 pm

Any Horizontal or Veritcal (Recommended) run of straight pipe, check the Field Controls Website, they offer many suggestions for mounting.


http://www.fieldcontrols.com/pdfs/02702600.PDF
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


I think no closer than 18" from the stove is normally recommended. You just have to set the weights on the Baro for the proper orientation and adjust accordingly.
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:11 pm

The proper and most accurate way to set the barometric damper is with a draft gauge. called a manometer. The forum has a manometer loaner program. You can PM member Matthaus and get on the mailing list.

The marks on the baro damper are a close setting, but each instalation is different, so setting it with a virtually free 'loaner manometer' is available if you wish to.

Here is the link to the loaner program thread: Manometer Loaner Program

Greg L.
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:30 pm

GAMESNIPER wrote:do i need any dampners in stove pipe off of stove... i purchased a this stove used.. couple of friends said harmen dont want anything in stove pipe can anyone answer my concern


Is this the stove you were looking at (refered to in other posts)?
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:30 pm

If you haven't gotten the manual, let me know. I can scan at and e-mail it to you. Search the posts to find pics of my stove with the baro damper installed.
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: GAMESNIPER On: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:23 am

Yes this is the stove i was asking about in other post just picked it up tonight it was a markII very nice shape only needs door gasket ...i got manual off of website it says do not install manual,automatic dampners in pipe does anyone not use a dampner ....hopefully i get it hooked up this weekend and give it a burn hope it heats my new 2 story stick built home let me know about dampner...thanks for you guys answering my questions
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Re: pipe on harman markII

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:17 am

You won't be disappointed with the stove.
The manual forbids use of a manual damper. It states that a baro damper may be used, they are indicating that it's not needed if the chimney does not draft over 1.0" WC with a full fire. You need to check the draft with a manometer once the stove is installed. The easiest way is to install it with the baro damper, otherwise you may need to re-pipe if you find you need the baro later on.
Most chimneys will pull more draft then you need, so I'd go with the baro. The worst that will happen is that it will stay closed all the time. Use Field Controls Model RC Barometric Damper. If you have too much draft high pipe temperatures, short burn times, and a lot of your heat will go up the chimney, along with all the $$$ you paid for all that nice coal will be the result.
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