Obamacare lies

Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:17 pm

lsayre wrote: My needs are noble and fundamental to human nature. If this was back in the tribal hunter/gatherer days, I would just take from you to satisfy me needs.

The first part of that statement is true, and the second part untrue.

Needs fundamental to human nature are conceptual in nature and not to be misconstrued as material things as they are today. That's why rich people kill themselves too.

The idea that the strong lorded it over the weak in tribal societies is not borne out by what little we know of our own stone age Americans. Everything I have read of early contacts describe them as happy contented people with a sense of justice and their place in the world in many ways superior to our own.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:53 pm

franco b wrote:
lsayre wrote: My needs are noble and fundamental to human nature. If this was back in the tribal hunter/gatherer days, I would just take from you to satisfy me needs.

The first part of that statement is true, and the second part untrue.

Needs fundamental to human nature are conceptual in nature and not to be misconstrued as material things as they are today. That's why rich people kill themselves too.

The idea that the strong lorded it over the weak in tribal societies is not borne out by what little we know of our own stone age Americans. Everything I have read of early contacts describe them as happy contented people with a sense of justice and their place in the world in many ways superior to our own.


I think you're right in many ways. Almost all of what is our present day society is European in nature and that is because those immigrants had some needs too, and they took them from the indiginous peoples. Obviously, they did it because they could, where as they could not, where they came from. The indiginous peoples could not seem to work together because many had much longer standing grudges with other tribes than with the newcomers. They were quite easily deceived and for the most part their culture was primitive and the notion of owning specific pieces of land was not part of their lexicon. It wasn't very long ago either.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:54 pm

wsherrick wrote:
lsayre wrote:Would a country that spies on everything and everybody be capable of finding sufficient dirt with which to subvert the vote of a Supreme Court Justice in order to keep Obamacare afloat?


I will go to my grave with the belief that Justice Roberts was strong armed somehow. They got to him somehow. His statements and reactions to questions afterward give me the suspicions that he has a guilty conscience.



I have also thought the same. With the NSA they probably own a lot more than just him.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:32 am

Flyer5 wrote:
I have also thought the same. With the NSA they probably own a lot more than just him.


Agreed, just look at how many Generals have had their careers ended under this administration including one of our most famous Petreaus. Kinda scary, no?
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:07 am

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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: franco b On: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:18 am


I looked at the previous link you posted with the picture of the welder. I didn't know you hired the undead.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:41 pm

franco b wrote:

I looked at the previous link you posted with the picture of the welder. I didn't know you hired the undead.



At quitting time they come to life. :D
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:05 pm

The biggest lie of course is that the system (not the website mind you, but the system itself) will work. One clear indicator that it will not work is that it takes a government gun to force everyone to enroll. Without such blatant coercion the only people who would be lining up to sign up would be those with pre-existing medical conditions, and as Karl Denninger (one of the founding members of the Tea Party) clearly observes in the video I have linked below:

"“If you are an insurance company and you only sell insurance to those who have already lit their house on fire, you’re not going to be in business very long. You have to have people who buy insurance who are not likely to have fires.” and “Now we have a huge problem because the only people who are going to enroll are the people who are going to crash the system if everyone else doesn’t show up.”

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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:44 pm

That guy made a lot of sense, thanks for posting that..
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:07 pm

I really have to stop reading the politics section it just boils my blood, but you guys see Obama apoligize. He is such a dirtbag. Like he really cares about you and me. Feel bad for the people that actually believe him. Matt
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:30 am

I'd like to see the insurence companies appologsing. Wonder why there hasn't been a peep out of them? They see that they will not make as much profit on your policy, so they jack up the cost and you are going to make up the differance. They are trying to lay low and put it all on the Gov. BS. They are also culpable and they are taking advantage of people and you will see them recording record profits. Really got to wonder.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:58 am

Steve, how can you sit there and repeat the mantra? The insurance co's are not cancelling policies. The AFC is mandating they be cancelled!!! Funny that following the law that no one read is the Insurance industries fault! However, I am sure they knew exactly what was in it and had some part in writing it. But put the blame with the people that went out front and lied.....you know who they are.

Kevin
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:41 am

You've got to pass it to see what is in it


What a bunch of liberal clowns. That phrase only applies to a stool sample.. AHAHAHAHAHA, I slay myself.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:19 pm

KLook wrote:Steve, how can you sit there and repeat the mantra? The insurance co's are not cancelling policies. The AFC is mandating they be cancelled!!! Funny that following the law that no one read is the Insurance industries fault! However, I am sure they knew exactly what was in it and had some part in writing it. But put the blame with the people that went out front and lied.....you know who they are.

Kevin


All I'm saying Kev, is follow the money and lets see who makes out after it's all said and done.
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Re: Obamacare lies

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:43 am

Am I the only one who is disturbed by Obama altering the rules of the Obamacare law all by his lonesome? He just did it again yesterday, and it is the second time now that he has (by himself) delayed the implementation of a major section what is a law enacted by Congress and signed by him. Where does he get this power? Show me in the Constitution where he can do such powerful things this side of declaring Martial Law. Once again I ask why our Supreme Court has its head burred in the sand while he becomes a dictator. Hate it as much as I do, the law is the law, and only an act of Congress or a Supreme Court intervention or jury nullification can overturn it. Obama must obey and implement the law as signed on time and per the plan, and if he does not, is that not grounds for impeachment?
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