unplanned plumbing project......

unplanned plumbing project......

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:05 pm

I woke up this morning to a wet floor in the basement. It isn't finished so the wet cement is no big deal. I thought the water heater sprung a leak since that is where the floor was wet, but noticed the top of the furnace cabinet was wet and traced it to a pinhole in the 50 year old copper pipe running along the ceiling. The pinhole was in a 4" length between two T's so this was not going to be a simple fix.

4 hours later and two trips to the hardware store i now have about 35 feet of old copper along with various 90's, T's and a couple valves replaced with CPVC.

The shark bite style fittings made it go much faster for me since i didn't have to fully drain everything to sweat fittings to the copper that still remains. Those things are high $$$ ($18 for a 3/4" valve) so I just used them to transition to the CPVC and went all plastic from there.

i would have had it done in 3 hrs and 1 trip, but one of the shark bite unions wouldn't seal around one run of the CPVC so it took a second trip to get another union. With all the extra fittings i bought on the first trip 'just in case' of course i didn't have the needed extra union! Then i couldn't get the bad union off the copper side so i ended up cutting the line back a little further so i could install the second union. even after that section was out i still couldn't get that union off that section of pipe to see if i could tell why it dripped.

then i noticed the old copper coming off the hot water heater looks bad in some places too (greenish residue around some fittings). There is even a gray plastic coupling above the furnace duct that i hadn't ever noticed before. I'll probably pick up some more fittings & pipe and swap that section this coming weekend. better to schedule it than have it start leaking at an inconvenient time, like midnight when everything is closed.

i am just hoping i didn't cause any other damage to the remaining copper & fittings by jostling the pipe around doing the work. i left all my tools down there because i know as soon as i take them back out to the workshop a drip will show up!
titleist1
 
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Re: unplanned plumbing project......

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:30 pm

Sounds like you should plan on repiping most of the system when there is an opportunity.
Rob R.
 
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Re: unplanned plumbing project......

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:03 pm

next time -- yes I know its a temporary solution -- but I have used this in some very long temporary periods

Just take a one inch pc of automotive heater hose
split it
wrap the pin hole - split to the opposite side of the pipe
then clamp the hose, over the hole with a (good quality stainless steel) 1/2 inch wide hose clamp

5 minutes in and out

$100.00 billable for emergency service LOL :oops:
Sting
 
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Re: unplanned plumbing project......

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:22 pm

yep...i know all about that fix! my FIL still has a piece of my BIL's wetsuit clamped around a 3" copper waste pipe from a temporary fix 5 years ago. i have given up suggesting we fix it for real. I never remember to go fix it for real when they are away on vacation.


i have almost all the old stuff swapped out......

After the hw pipe run is redone i think the only section of original pipe is an unused leg going to the old washer hook up. you're right, i should cap that and remove it too since it isn't being used any more.

The initial remodel in '92 took care of replacing the supplies and drains on the bathroom & kitchen. when the pressure tank & wh were replaced in '96 a couple more sections were updated up to the new valves i added.

in one way i am glad i waited until now for these sections! i didn't trust the shark bite fittings back then when they first came out. if i would have done it back then i would have sweated all those T's & valves at the transitions and would probably still be working on it! :D
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite