coal temp is very low

coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:25 am

i have a ds 1600 stove. stove temp is about 130 degrees right now, outside temp is 65 degrees, i'm afraid fire may be going out. the stove is full of coal and hopper is full. bi metal Thermostat is about 1 1/2 inches open right now. any ideas how to get the fire going again. i do see some red coals underneath the new coal.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: ds 1600

Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: KingCoal On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:40 am

can you see red glow under grates ? that's from red burning coal up above.

if not, shake lightly till you get it or small red coals come thru.

set your dial to 2, open the ash door and stand there in front of it ( DONT WALK AWAY )till the blue flames establish, then close ash door.

i'll bet it will take less than 5 mins.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DSM 1400, Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none
Stove/Furnace Model: 2013 1400 Circulator

Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:46 am

i did shake it down, but no red coals fell thru grates to ash pan. i had ash pan door open for 10-15 mins and no changes, also bi metal is open like 1 /12 inches. i did change from 2 to 2.5 on the setting knob. i wonder since it is so warm out that i am losing draft. not sure whats going on.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:52 am

Ah.... Your fire needs some CPR. Do not poke prod or stir it up. Shaking the grates right now could put it out too. I'm betting your
draft is near zero.As suggested, open the ash pan door. You might need something to stimulate your draft like burning some news paper or card board on top the coal bed. If you have any red glowing down thru the grates, You should be able to save her.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:02 am

sm, if you got red coals underneath---leave her alone to do what she's meant to do. She'll be ready for a light shake down this evening:)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:23 am

just the very center of fire box has red coals outside the center no red coals.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: dcrane On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:26 am

Lightning wrote:Ah.... Your fire needs some CPR. Do not poke prod or stir it up. Shaking the grates right now could put it out too. I'm betting your
draft is near zero.As suggested, open the ash pan door. You might need something to stimulate your draft like burning some news paper or card board on top the coal bed. If you have any red glowing down thru the grates, You should be able to save her.


very good lightning... it sounds he is on the verge of loosing her... establish draft above, open bottom door below and keep your fingers crossed.

Lightning's got this down pat... his advise is very good and the only hope at this point. the reason BTW its only in the center is that big square football field (inside joke) buts whats called "dead spots", but neither here or their.... stuff newspaper up the flu pipe and light it (can you get to flu pipe or is hopper in way?)... open bottom door, not disturb the firebed at this point until you start this artificial resuscitation (I will say though on a big square box its going to be time consuming to obtain an even firebed again even if you save her :cry: On your stove I might opt to let her go out and start new.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:37 am

i had a real good draft last week and stove was burning great. i think since weather warmed up over 60 degrees thats when fire started to die out. not sure tho.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:39 am

Still, that bi-metallic should take care of things--it's all a crap shoot, but the people that designed the stove pretty well knew what they were doing:)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: dcrane On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:43 am

freetown fred wrote:Still, that bi-metallic should take care of things--it's all a crap shoot, but the people that designed the stove pretty well knew what they were doing:)


if their is no draft... you could put a hair dryer in that bottom door and shes gonna fail ;) your bi metal flapper aint got this one....
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:46 am

with the warm up, everybody's draft is affected to some degree--just let her be-- good time to learn something about the stove's limitations or not.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 am

yeah i will see how it goes, and to dcrane that football size fire box keeps my 2200 square foot home at 78 degrees upstairs and downstairs not even pushing the stove. shake down once a day and add coal every 2-3 days.
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: buck24 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:13 am

Give her a couple of pokes from under the grates where the red areas are. Sometimes all she needs is a little more air in the right spot.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: New Buck Corp. / MODEL 24 COAL
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Nut / Anthracite

Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: shoman70 On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:24 am

ok thanks will try that
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Re: coal temp is very low

PostBy: KingCoal On: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:17 am

the draft requirements of our 2 stoves must be pretty far apart. it was just as warm here the last 2 days and nights and i was down to setting 1.5 ( 1 for a while ) with 150* coming off the stove the whole time.

when i looked at it this morning it was burning fine, shook it down, threw in 1/3 hod of coal, brought up the blues and shut her up.

if it goes out i'll be surprised. as long as there's any red coal at all in mine it'll jump right back up.

you have a Baro installed though, i wonder if it's cutting your draft too much. how much of the time is it open ?
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