Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:52 pm

Due to the Obama administrations war on ammunition, the ability of US corporations to make lead for bullets has been legislated out of existence by EPA regulations on lead processing that are impossibly tough to comply with. The last lead smelter in the USA has just closed its doors. Now the lead required to make ammo will be available only from overseas, but the recently passed UN ammunition exportation restriction laws will simultaneously make it illegal for all UN compliant foreign countries to export lead to us for the purpose of our making ammunition. We will now need to import it, but other nations that have signed on to the UN regulations can't legally export it to us. Obama seems bent on subverting everything that the USA once stood for. The best way to destroy a nation is to subvert it from within.

http://offgridsurvival.com/backdoor-gun ... d-smelter/
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:36 pm

lsayre wrote: the ability of US corporations to make lead for bullets has been legislated out of existence by EPA regulations on lead processing that are impossibly tough to comply with.


That's only true at today's prices. Once other countries cant supply us with lead then lead prices will rise and then at some point it can be done competitively at home again. Unless the real objective of the current BS reg's aren't being introduced for the reason youve suggested . And make no mistake , I would not doubt that one little bit; Im just hoping your wrong. :sick:
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:51 pm

It will not begin again because it won't be allowed to. prices be damned. Enviro's, locals, and activists have been assaulting the Herky plant for years. If you think that another lead smelter will be built in this country after this one is shut down, you're wrong.
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:04 pm

However,.....90% of US lead production comes from discarded and recycled lead acid batteries. Ammo can be made from other material. Car batteries, less so, cheaply anyway.
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:54 pm

To think I didn't even know Obama was in office in 08 but I guess I'm wrong again. http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/end-o ... -december/
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:02 pm

I wonder if there is any connection between the govt buying billions of rounds over the last few years.
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:29 pm

There was an outfit at many of the gun ranges around here that reclaim the lead & go all around the country doing so, most of the ammo is made from this. There is also a big lead smelter in BC that smelts most of the lead, zinc, gold & silver mined in Alaska. I don't know if all those metals go there or if there is a way of separating them before hand but they are going strong & gold is almost at peak production amounts from the gold rush days.
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:34 am

If the USA is ever invaded, where will we get the lead to produce the bullets required in order to fight for our own survival?
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:58 am

lsayre wrote:If the USA is ever invaded, where will we get the lead to produce the bullets required in order to fight for our own survival?


Ummm haven't you seen "The Patriot"
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:29 am

Ummm haven't you seen "The Patriot"


Ummmm, NO. I can't remember the last movie I saw.

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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:10 pm

You are right, samhill, the EPA regulation was strengthened by the Bush Administration's EPA just a few days after he became a lame duck president. Most of the rank and file of the government is filled with "progressive-minded" government types who relish the thought of more and more "progress". According to the EPA, the technology exists for primary smelters to produce lead with the ten fold stricter requirements but, funny thing, they forgot one small detail, being communistas and all: that plant can't make any money because lead's a COMMODITY. But soon their restrictions and those of the UN will knock the stuffing out of that pesky fact too.

http://www.epa.gov/air/lead/pdfs/20130626fs.pdf
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Re: Last lead smelter in USA closes its doors

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:20 pm

Bush and Obama are like two peas in a pod. They share common objectives. Otherwise Obama would be actively weakening and reversing all of the evils that he blames upon the Bush administration, rather than building upon and strengthening them.

Bush may just have been enough of an idiot to have no real clue, but what is Obama's excuse?

"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system"
George Bush

"I was a Constitutional Law Professor, which means unlike the current President I actually respect the Constitution."
Barack Obama

Of course a spokesman for the Republican National Committee immediately took exception to Obama’s remarks, pointing out that Obama’s title at the University of Chicago was "Senior Lecturer" and not "Professor." But I'm fairly certain that the MSM never dwelt upon this little fib of grandeur by the chosen one.
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