How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:53 pm

joeq wrote:I'm sure you won't be looking for one of these, but for info sake, this model Surdiac (513) hopper would have a hard time holding 20LBs, and not even that much on the grates. Total stove capacity with a hot bed and full hopper, maybe about 35LBs? (Sorry, we're talking pea, not nut)


It's good data! Your stove uses pea, so the data is appropriate for your stove. Most of the larger stoves seem to prefer nut.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:48 pm

I know this doesn't answer your question, but I thought of something you should keep in mind. Often the ash pan is the limiting factor in how long the stove can burn without attention...and even if it wasn't, you still have to physically shake the grates every so often. My point is that I have never heard of a gravity hopper-fed stove that exhausted the hopper before it needed the grates shaken or the ash pan emptied.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:51 pm

Excellent point. I was indeed looking at this from the perspective that the largest capacity hopper would be of noticeable benefit. Your suggestion that it is not of specifically this benefit makes me wonder why they are a desired feature at all.
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Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:57 pm

Don't let that discourage ya. Hell, I'd bet an auger system of some sort could be rigged up so you might not have to touch the stove but every 3 or 4 days--or maybe even more
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:59 pm

Rob R. wrote:I know this doesn't answer your question, but I thought of something you should keep in mind. Often the ash pan is the limiting factor in how long the stove can burn without attention...and even if it wasn't, you still have to physically shake the grates every so often. My point is that I have never heard of a gravity hopper-fed stove that exhausted the hopper before it needed the grates shaken or the ash pan emptied.


.....I must say...Rob is always thinking- and his logic is always on point!....no wonder hes. moderator now ! (congrats again-and good choice mayor!)

...now we've all been "schooled" before at one point in our lives...and now may I coin the phrase. Larry...."you just got Robbed"!!!

...God I hope this catches on.... :lol:
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:02 pm

I always value Rob's knowledge and input.

But don't let this discourage the inflow of data. Keep it coming for your hoppers capacities.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:10 pm

...wow-tough crowd! :lol:

Larry.....that was sposed to be funny !
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:16 pm

It was funny!
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:20 pm

There is still an advantage to a hopper, and that is keeping the fire at a steady state for a longer period of time without intervention...plus it allows the coal above the fire to be preheated and slowly burn off volatiles.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:32 pm

JohnB wrote:
freetown fred wrote: from bottom of hopper to top about 20-25 lb--firebox--around 20-30lbs--soooo total inclusive of all-- 50-60 lbs---NUT--- and those stats above would mean exactly what?


Those numbers sound low by about half. I know my 50-93 hopper will swallow a 40lb bag without overfilling with a full bed underneath. Hitzer claims it holds 50lbs.
I too say you're about 1/2 off Fred. I know a 5 gallon pail holds about 40 pounds of coal. With a bed of coals under the 50-93 hopper, I can almost fill the hopper. I'm going to have to agree with HITZER's claim of 50 pounds. What are you thinking Fred. I know you know better ;) .
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:08 pm

Rob R. wrote:I know this doesn't answer your question, but I thought of something you should keep in mind. Often the ash pan is the limiting factor in how long the stove can burn without attention...and even if it wasn't, you still have to physically shake the grates every so often. My point is that I have never heard of a gravity hopper-fed stove that exhausted the hopper before it needed the grates shaken or the ash pan emptied.


halleluiah... I love hearing smart sense! the hopper preheats /preps the next load, it may settle slightly (an inch or so)... but other than that....it does NOTHING a good quality coal stove that can be "banked" does (ohhh wait...yes it does... it takes $500 out of your pocket!). You still need to touch it every 12-24 hours depending on season, it begets you nothing but a hopper that may burn out, no ability to clean flu pipe without dismantling your stove and added area/seams to weaken its airtightness and lets not forget the added risk of the dreaded "hopper fire".
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:16 pm

Missa Clane You Clazy in head.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: Rigar On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:24 pm

:D :lol: :clap:
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:39 pm

Terrible calculations on my part :( Me bad :? :clap: toothy
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: How many pounds of nut coal does your hopper hold?

PostBy: joeq On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:21 am

And let the games begin! :discuss:
joeq
 
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