Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: ASHDUMP On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:14 pm

I found a place not far from me that sells anthracite and bituminous lump coal. I might try burning some lump this year to see what its all about. I have a fire place grate that is about 5" up off the ground. Can I just pile a bunch of lump coal on it and see if it can burn? Or should I get a special coal burning basket? Stupid questions here but this is all new to me.
ASHDUMP
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404
Stove/Furnace Make: Crane
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Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:17 pm

ASHDUMP wrote:I found a place not far from me that sells anthracite and bituminous lump coal. I might try burning some lump this year to see what its all about. I have a fire place grate that is about 5" up off the ground. Can I just pile a bunch of lump coal on it and see if it can burn? Or should I get a special coal burning basket? Stupid questions here but this is all new to me.


I never really tried it but I think cowboys used to use the stuff right in their camp fires on open ground so I don't see why it wouldent work.
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:20 pm

ASHDUMP wrote:I found a place not far from me that sells anthracite and bituminous lump coal. I might try burning some lump this year to see what its all about. I have a fire place grate that is about 5" up off the ground. Can I just pile a bunch of lump coal on it and see if it can burn? Or should I get a special coal burning basket? Stupid questions here but this is all new to me.



Take a look at that pic I posted, that fire is burning on a standard fireplace grate. Just place the lumps in the fire like logs (i like to use a welder's glove on one hand to do so). Just get a small wood fire with kindling or scrap going, then place the lump coal around and over it.

For a fireplace you want a large lump, free-burning, HIGH volatile bituminous coal.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal


Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:28 pm

ASHDUMP, Where did you find bituminous coal? Matt
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: ASHDUMP On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:35 am

A place in Braintree MA called Williams Energy. I sent them an email and they replied back saying they had anthracite in 40# bags and bituminous coal in 50# bags. I replied and requested pricing. Not sure what their costs are.
ASHDUMP
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404
Stove/Furnace Make: Crane
Stove/Furnace Model: 404

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:39 am

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:05 pm

Thank you ASHDUMP. Might have to take a ride. Mike A. nice link. To anyone who buys anything cast that has to be shipped make sure you get it insured. I know it saved me. I've seen a few coal baskets turn up in antique stores. They are usually hidden under shelving or furniture. Matt
DePippo79
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: ASHDUMP On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:26 pm

Well I went down to Williams Energy to pick up a couple bags of anthracite and a bag of bituminous coal. They said it was blacksmith coal and really ground up and wouldn't be good for a fireplace. So I passed on that and only got two bags of anthracite for the weekend. Now, these guys were great and let me take a small box of larger anthracite coal home to try in the fireplace. I'm a little leery to put this in the fireplace but might give it a shot. The pieces are about 6"x3"x2".
ASHDUMP
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404
Stove/Furnace Make: Crane
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Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:24 pm

Hello guys. Got my hands on some bit. coal today. Stuff is cool. Think my friend and I are going to take a trip to PA. He wants fireworks and I want a p/u load of bit. coal for the fireplaces. My friend says the fireworks for sale are better in PA. than NH. Different class of explosive. So if anyone knows of a mine/breaker that I can drive a p/u truck to and get a loader bucket of coal please chime in. He already did his research on the fireworks. Starting burning at 1830. Curious to see how long it goes. Take care. Matt
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: Berlin On: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:02 am

Great! Where did you find it? in NH?

Closest to you I know of with high vol bituminous lump coal is Valier - $85/ton for their "oversize" (lump) coal. call before you go, a lot of places are real low on house coal this time of year.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: joeq On: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:54 pm

85 bucks a ton, for bit!!?? Wow! Why so cheap, compared to anthracite?
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Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: Berlin On: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:42 am

joeq wrote:85 bucks a ton, for bit!!?? Wow! Why so cheap, compared to anthracite?


There's a LOT more of it and the major industrial users keep the supply stable and the prices low. Bit house coal, lump, or stoker can go for between $35 -140/ton at the source depending on quality, size, and other variables; there are a lot more variables with bit coal than anthracite. Many of these variables are neither "good" or "bad", but one or more variables may make the coal desirable for one use and not another - for example, blacksmiths like a high coke button low/mid volatile bituminous coal, but for a fireplace you want a high volatile low/no coke button bituminous coal. With bit coal, unlike anthracite, you need to undertake more effort to find a coal quality, type, and size that's suitable for your specific application.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Coal Fireplace Basket Suggestions/Comments

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:16 pm

Thanks as always. I'll look into Valier. Won't be till I get my tax refund anyway. As for the source it helps to have friends in Industry. I did try a guy in Mass. that fires his own bricks and asked him if I could buy a couple 5 gal. buckets frrom him and he started on this rant about if the EPA ever found out. Don't know if he was pulling my chain or not, but thats ok. I got some. Thanks again. Matt
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40, Stanley Argand No. 30, Glenwood Modern Oak 114, Stanley Argand No. 20 missing parts.
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
Other Heating: Oil hot water.