Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:34 pm

First off I built a heavy duty dolly that was made to fit the height of my hearth & the size of my new stove. I knew that the stove was installed on a higher hearth. I brought along lots of wood 2x4 x 8''s, 2x10 x 10's, some half sheets of 1/2 plywood, a full sheet of 3/4" osb that I used in the bed of my pickup to allow for easy rolling, some formica that I had laying around and some scab pieces of varies width and length wood. I also brought some ratchet straps. I plan to return most everything I purchased. To make my dolly the same height as the hearth where the stove was installed I put my dolly on 2x10's that would also protect the previous owners floor. Even with the 2x10's we were still low so we used the scab wood to make us even with the hearth after we screwed a piece of formica to the custom dolly shiny side up. Scab wood was placed at both ends of the 2x10's and close to where the dolly ended so as to provide a solid footing for the weight of the stove. Another piece of formica was cut that was longer. We lifted the front of the stove and slid it under as far as we could. To insure that the dolly would not move we screwed some scab 2x4's into the 2x10's so the wheels could not move forward. We easily slid the stove on the formica onto the dolly with firebrick, & grates. Once on the dolly I stepped on the formica and broke off the excess of the piece that was under the stove so it was even with the dolly. Time for a couple of blankets and 2 ratchet straps going in opposite directions. Once the ratchet straps were put on the stove and dolly were like one piece. We rolled it out of the previous owners living room. A couple of 2x10s were placed from the front door to the bed of my pickup. To eliminate sag we cut a couple of 2x4's and held them in place with a couple of screws. To keep the planks parallel we screwed another 2x4 to the underside of the planks. We rolled the stove onto the truck atop the 3/4" OSB which was sitting on top of about 6) 2x4s. The stove was pushed to the front of the truck and ratchet strapped in place. The 45 mile drive home was uneventful. Once at our house we backed up close to the back door, used the 2x10 again with some scab wood placed under the planks to prevent sagging. We easily rolled the stove off the truck up our planks, into the house across our floors and into the living room. Took the straps off and pushed it onto the hearth and into place. Stove is up and running. I intend to fabricate a larger top out of sheet metal, paint it black so it covers the fireplace curve. A special thank you goes out to board member franco b for listing this beautiful near new Hitzer 503 that is in perfect condition and for meeting me at the previous owners home and helping me and my boy remove the stove. What a nice man. Thank you!
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:35 pm

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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:13 pm

The Glacier Bay stove that I originally purchased has been relocated to my finished lower level where it is supplying ample heat at a simmer. We built a hearth pad from 1 half sheet of OSB, 1) 3x5 cement board. I had tiles, thin set, and grout from previous projects. Nothing too fancy but functional. Now I truly have a warm house and a happy family!
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:15 pm

Happy with my Hitzer on the first night. Cold outside tonight!
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:24 pm

This is a good thread because it shows how a common problem like moving a heavy stove (600 pounds) can be handled without any heavy lifting or damage to property or people. It does take the determination to plan and provide adequate equipment, and for that Bill deserves a lot of credit.
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:47 pm

You guys did your homework! The install looks good, my only concern is the bullhead install of the baro. I think it would be better if it was installed on the rise from the stove to the "proposed elbow" to the chimney. I got on Fields web site but could not find the info to support my argument. I just know I read it somewhere :mad: Solid fuel installs are slightly different, than other fuels oil/gas/propane.
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:12 pm

I can remember seeing on the Field's web site that the way you refer to was not recommended. No reason given, but my guess is that an oil burner starts with a puff and could allow some fumes to briefly escape at that turning point. I always liked that position because it allows such an easy inspection and cleaning route.
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:06 pm

I appreciate all input regarding the barometric damper. Originally I was going to start another thread regarding the Glacier Bay being moved downstairs but elected to post it here. I will research the pro's and cons of the barometric damper placement but honestly the thread was about moving a heavy stove with little effort. Thanks.
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:03 am

2001Sierra wrote:You guys did your homework! The install looks good, my only concern is the bullhead install of the baro. I think it would be better if it was installed on the rise from the stove to the "proposed elbow" to the chimney. I got on Fields web site but could not find the info to support my argument. I just know I read it somewhere :mad: Solid fuel installs are slightly different, than other fuels oil/gas/propane.


This is my 2nd yr. with the same set up and knock on wood :bang: no problems, I read the same comment but read no supporting info so my C.O. detector is my friend!
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PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:13 am

Like the others said great how to. Good pictures. Always good to visualize. Thanks for posting. Matt
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PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:42 am

now that's some serious eye for detail & patients! with that many guys id have been like "grab a corner you wimp" and prolly would have been out of work the next week :lol:
Great Job! I wonder why the old owner was getting rid of his Hitzer 503 ??? :shock:
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: ColdHouse On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:38 am

dcrane wrote:now that's some serious eye for detail & patients! with that many guys id have been like "grab a corner you wimp" and prolly would have been out of work the next week :lol:

Yes I have been there with the brute strength strategy. For the past 6 weeks I have been out of work because I nearly cut my left thumb off with a table saw. The day it happened it was stitched back on but 10 days later when the stitches were removed the bottom side of the wound opened up, then got infected. I wore a wound vac until this past friday. Needless to say I am not 100%. The other assistants were an 82 year old gentleman that understands the importance of "work smarter not harder", my 16 year old son. My wife the 4' 10" photographer & the elderly panicked female homeowner were our observers. Bringing the right tools for the job can make a novice work like a professional. I knew this stove was heavy and we rolled it around like it was nothing. Furthermore I have a dolly I can use if or when the insert needs to be taken out.
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Re: Moved a Heavy Stove today with some help & ingenuity

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:03 am

I used my ATV winch fed through the porch, through a snatch block 90° down the basement stairs (almost full vertical ... :lol: ) to the handle of a hand truck (2-wheeler). I had ripped a sheet of plywood in 2, and nailed it to the stairs. Nice and easy. The hardest part was walking the 500+ lb. boiler to said plywood with no room to move. Once it got on there, gravity sure took charge! ;)

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PostBy: top top On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:02 pm

Interesting. I had a similar problem with a 500 lb stove. I used my tractor to set it on the deck, and two inch PVC pipe for rollers. When the stove came off a roller, I just picked it up and moved it to the front again. The PVC pipe is non marring (just bevel the ends a little) and spreads the weight out so the hardwood floor was fine. Rolled it right up to the hearth. I used a piece of 2x4 as a lever to lift one side of the stove at at time, move the roller and set the stove on blocks. To lift the stove onto the 14 inch high hearth I called my friend Jack. He just picked it up all by himself and I just sort of guided it into position. I already had a roller on top of the hearth and when Jack set it down about half the stove was on the hearth, the rest was hanging out in thin air. I steadied the stove and just rolled it on back, then used the lever to remove the roller. Since I already had the scrap pipe and 2x4 it cost nothing and went very quick.

Oh, if you want to try this method yourself and want Jack's help his full name is Hydraulic Jack. Some call him by his nickname, Trolley Jack. I'll include a link with his contact info.

Another trick for rollers is a bucket of golf balls. The nice thing about using the balls is the heavy object will move in any direction.

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PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:28 pm

Smitty, that reminds me of the basement in the house I grew up in. It kindles fond memories.
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