Reading Juniata help!!

Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:14 pm

Have a reading juniata just got it im new to coal stoves that red adjuster in the rear of the stove was set about half way down the rod previous owner said he never messed with it stove is 3 years old manual says to adjust it tight against plate and back it off 2 turns thats nice but when its burnin 99 its pushing unburned coal off an the ash isnt like dust or fine pieces its huge chunks an getting caught in the grate house is 1800sq ft keeping it at 72
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:39 pm

If you have the coaltrol, you need to turn the MAX number down a couple numbers and let it settle for a while. Settings take time on coal, make SMALL adjustments at a time and wait 30-60 mins and see what has changed.

Whats your setting at currently. ?
WNY
 
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Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:48 pm

Its bringing the house up now and the FR is at 99 and pushing hot coals off so i turned baxk the red adjuster in the back of the stove one turn to see it reacts within half hour and im not sure how to check the min or max fr im slowly learning with it
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:51 pm

Min is 35 and max is 99 im assuming the coal should be one inch from the end of the grate when burning at 99 but that red adjuster in the back throws me off i guess turning it tighter or looser from the plate controls how much coal is being brought in at each swipe
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:55 pm

This is how its burning an very clumpy ash
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jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:01 pm

You have to hold the Menu button in a few seconds to get to the menu on the coaltrol (look in the manual or online, I think manuals are on the CoalTrol Site).

It may go to FULL feed rate (FR=99) until the temp is satisfied, only adjust your temp a couple degrees at a time if at all.

The MIN and MAX are different for each stove, Max OF 99 seem high, but each stove is different. It all depends on the feed mechanism.

If it's clumping, you have a bit too much air or you have a lot of impurities in the coal. You may have some clumping when you run it HOT.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:19 pm

Im currently burning rice coal and it only clumps when its burning hot its putting out good heat just clumping now and its 40 degrees outside i have a barometric dampener could that be set wrong
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:26 pm

The baro is only for draft, how did you set it up? You need a draft gauge to set it correctly.

the combustion air blower, blows air under the coal, sometimes they have a inlet cover on the that can be adjusted open or closed. some do not.
Sometimes if you have TOO much airflow to the coal, it will burn really hot and fuse/clump the coal.

a little clumping is ok, it all depends on your stove and air flow. I've had a little clumpling in my stove if it's really cold out and its burning really hot.

Sometimes it takes a bit to get it dialed in and tweaking a bit until you get it just right.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:42 pm

Okay it only started clumping when i adjusted a rod in the bank the flow of coal under the grate is non adjustable when i increase thefeed rate by the little red adjuster in that back thats when it burned hotter an started ckumping ill keep tweaking with that though an my weight is almost all the way in and is open all but all the way its mounted horizontally ill take pic an post it
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:45 pm

Should of never messed w/ that red nut.

Take it to 5/8"between acorn nut and the hole through the 90* bend in the carpet...not sure of the number of turns...might be 12 ???

You can not calibrate the Coaltrol until you get a reasonable fire on the grate.
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Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: pvolcko On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:11 am

jlentz1006,

We'd be more than happy to help you get this adjusted properly. Could you call our shop at 315-299-3589 to discuss the steps and recommended settings for this stove?

As a starting point:

If your stove has a separate motor for feeder and combustion air, then you should have that red nut to the acorn nut and then backed off two turns, then set MIN to 3 and MAX to 24 as a starting point.

If your stove has one motor running the stoker and turning the combustion blower then you should have the red nut at 5/8" and use a MIN/MAX of 50 and 99 to start out. If you have this setup we would recommend you consider adding a separate combustion air blower. It will allow for easier adjustments (not having the strike a balance between the mechanical red nut adjsutment and the MIN/MAX settings) and more complete coal burn through the entire feed rate range.
pvolcko
 

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:35 pm

Thank you ive been turning the red washer in the back my coal stove has one motor for grate fan and coal feeder so id have to set it to 5/8 and is your shop open after 5pm.. really appreciate all the help!!
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: pvolcko On: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 am

Sometimes we'll answer after 5pm. If no answer leave a message on the machine with a callback number and a time you'd like to be called.
pvolcko
 

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:22 pm

Okay here we go i adjusted the red nut back couple turns cause it was warm an coaltrol said 0FR an my min is 35 n max is 85 but they dont seem to matter anyway so on 2 days it was idling burnin excellent really thought i figured it out until tonite its colder i have temp set to 72 i come home house is 68degrees coaltrol has an fr of 99 even though i set max to 85 so i go ccheck out the flame and its still burning at an idle... So your telling me inbetween 0fr and 99fr its not going to adjust the flame of the grate i have to manually screw the red screw up 5 turns so when its burning at 99fr its got 1in of ash at the grate and then when its up to temp an coal trol reads 0fr i need to go down an manually turn the red screw back 5 turns to idle whats the point of coal trol or any electronics im confused becuase the coal trol is not controlling the fire in the grate even though its fluctuating from 0 to 99 when my min and max arent that high or low???
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: Reading Juniata help!!

PostBy: pvolcko On: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:02 pm

jlentz1006,

Please call our shop to discuss your setup. 315-299-3589. If normal business hours do not work for you, please call to request we call you back at a given time or leave a message with your callback number and a time you'd like to be called. You can also email us (coaltrol@automationcorrect.com) or PM me on the forum with your contact info and a time or times you're available to go over your setup.

Keep in mind, when you are on the MIN or MAX screens it stay on those screens and run the stoker at that MIN or MAX rate. So if you left it on MIN for several hours, for instance, and the temperature outside dropped, then it is going to continue running the stove at MIN (or MAX) until you leave that screen and go back to the normal screen. Or you can leave it on any screen but MIN or MAX and it will automatically return to normal "round robin" screens after 30 seconds.

We want to get you up and running. You should not be having to make constant adjustments to that red lobe, and you should see a difference between MIN and MAX fire, for sure.

In the mean time, please enter TEST mode (press and hold MENU button for 5 seconds until the word "FEED" appears on the screen, then tap the MENU button once until the word "TEST" appears, press the UP or DOWN button to enter TEST mode). In this mode it will cycle each output on for 5 seconds and then off, in sequence. The output that is on will display its name on the screen (STOKER, CMBSTN, CNVCTN, etc.). Please make sure the name of the output matches up with the motor that is on at that time. In your case with only one motor for both stoker and combustion air, your stoker should come on with STOKER, and no motor will be on for CMBSTN output. CNVCTN output will have your convection air blower running. This is to make sure everything is plugged in and wired up right.

Next, enter MIN in the SETUP menu and leave it there for 30 minutes. The fire should be at "idle". Next, move to the MAX setting in the SETUP menu. Leave it there for 30 minutes. The fire should be a full grate of fire, with ash for the last 1-1.5 inches. If the fire does not significantly change, then adjust your MIN and MAX settings until you get a good low fire and high fire.

Again, please call us to discuss this.
pvolcko