BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: traderfjp On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:31 pm

I'm tired of the smell, of using pellets, lump coal, mice, etc, to light my stoker. I read great results using a heat gun. I was wondering how an electric BBQ lighter would work. I found this one an Amazon.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JF60SI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:15 pm

Me thinks anything that would come in contact w/ the full heat of the coal better be disposable. ;)

Why does the smells come out of the stove? Couldn't you jump start the draft, so to speak, before lighting?
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:17 pm

I dunno,damn handle and cord sticking out the door opening oughta make 'ya crazy after awhile.....But what the hell,try it ! My buddy in the next town over uses what he calls "The Montville Match" He gets one of those short,stout propane cylinders,coupled with the flame-lock on Bernzomatic Torch Heads,and let's his Nut Size Anthracite have it in the Harman MK2 I sold him back in '94 or '95 ! Really seems to start one hell of an ignition party !
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: Horace On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:23 pm

McGiever wrote:Me thinks anything that would come in contact w/ the full heat of the coal better be disposable. ;)


Yup. I used to use a BBQ lighter and it worked really well. Ten minutes to the start of a full burn. However, I left it in the stove too long one time. Apparently, coal is a hell of a lot hotter than a lighter. Burned right through it. I paid $3 for it at K-Mart.

Lately I've put some mostly burned wood leftovers and some shredded paper into a lunch-sized brown paper bag. Works every time.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: Greyhound On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:55 pm

I tried that a couple of times (electric charcoal starter) it works, but if you don't have a good draft going already, you get a lot of smoke out the door where the cord is passing through. I have one I'll sell you cheap if you want it. Not as deluxe as the one on Amazon, but it works.

I am still a big fan of the Cowboy Charcoal method, start it outdoors in a charcoal starter "can" bring it in, dump it in the stove, and you are good to go, works every time.

Rick
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:59 pm

Hambden Bob wrote:I dunno,damn handle and cord sticking out the door opening oughta make 'ya crazy after awhile.....But what the hell,try it ! My buddy in the next town over uses what he calls "The Montville Match" He gets one of those short,stout propane cylinders,coupled with the flame-lock on Bernzomatic Torch Heads,and let's his Nut Size Anthracite have it in the Harman MK2 I sold him back in '94 or '95 ! Really seems to start one hell of an ignition party !


Maybe he uses the yellow tank...Mapp Gas
Because Propane, in the blue tank, doesn't get hot enough to light anthracite.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
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Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:14 am

I thought about the electric starter. I have decent draft through the boiler with nothing running. Newspaper,Kindling, charcoal briquettes, rice coal, match. Has worked so far with no appreciable amounts of smoke/fumes.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:58 am

Cowboy charcoal,a little charcoal lighter fluid,and one match. Simple and effective.If I ever used an electric element of any sort ,I think I might want to use it with a ground fault receptacle.No telling what fan powered coals might do to the outer insulation on the element after a time. Mike
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: traderfjp On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:22 am

I use lump coal now and sometimes I can get the stove lit very easily and then other times it requires more work. It can get smelly and messy. I ordered the electric BBQ lighter and should have it in a few days. It's better than the normal large loop because there is more surface area to light the coal. I'll report back and let everyone know how it performs. I have a coaltrol and they were working on an auto ignition system but I guess that project was killed. Love my coaltrol by the way.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:41 am

traderfjp wrote:I use lump coal now and sometimes I can get the stove lit very easily and then other times it requires more work. It can get smelly and messy. I ordered the electric BBQ lighter and should have it in a few days. It's better than the normal large loop because there is more surface area to light the coal. I'll report back and let everyone know how it performs. I have a coaltrol and they were working on an auto ignition system but I guess that project was killed. Love my coaltrol by the way.


This changes everything...
Lump coal...do tell us more.
You're not using Lump in the Alaska Channing, for sure. :?
What is the size of Lump?
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: traderfjp On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:29 am

I meant cowboy coal to get my stove started.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:33 am

Oh, not coal...charcoal made from wood. :roll:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:50 am

When I lit my boiler for the first time last week, I just used the same plain-jane cheap charcoal I used in the handfired. Handful of charcoal, soak in diesel, light, let burn for a bit, turn on combustion blower. Easy as pie. No fancy electrical devices needed. Just my .02 ...

If you have crappy draft, stick a hairdryer .. or better yet, a heat gun in the flue for a minute.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: traderfjp On: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:05 pm

I've been that route. It works great at times and then other times the fire wants to go out and I end up putting on more fluid, etc. and it can get messy.
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Re: BBQ Electric Element for Lighting

PostBy: IH8JEEP On: Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:22 am

coffee can or big soup can with a small v cut on end. Stuff couple sheets of newspaper in bottom of the can. Take 2 or 3 pieces of cheap charcoal and crush with a hammer in zip lock bag. Put broken charcoal in can on top of newspaper. Turn on stove. Set can on edge of burner grate and light paper in the v you cut. I use a little propane torch. Once lit start adding a little coal,about 1/2 cup. Evevy couple minutes add a little coal. About 15 minutes take your BBQ tongs and lift can up and into ash pan quickly. You will have a pile of hot coals. I have 3 Alaskas and have tried it all over 20 plus years,mice(used to be cheap,now couple bucks for each one),heat gun,bbq electric heater(no good if power gos out) . This is cheap,easy,and always works.
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