Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:05 am

I have Poconos (2), a Keystoker, DVC and they are all nice stoves and now at last getting out of first gear here on the farm as winter approaches. At least the DVC would be better if I was not scared of Harman customer service and the circuitry. The point of this post is to eulogize the AnthraKing 110K as it always seemed better but I had to play around a bit for my application. At last I seem to have it dialed in.

Using tubes (18) and a bigger fan to get the heat out of there instead of it just being a steel box always seemed to be a great idea and that is why I bought in the first place it but it was more expensive. Now with the bigger combustion fan, better rice coal with less fines for better air flow (thx Gale mining, great coal), running the distribution fan flat out all the time (a function of my install problems), this morning I'm starting to see the possibilities. I have 650* over the fire door and yet over to the side of the front of the stove I measure only 275*. I was tying to estimate the surface area of the heat tubes and I came up with a number of close to 30sq ft (hey Berwick, help me out here). I am cruising at 650* so using this table:

80* ------------------------------------------------------ 15 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
100* ------------------------------------------------------ 51 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
150* ------------------------------------------------------ 168 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
200* ------------------------------------------------------ 315 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
400* ------------------------------------------------------ 1230 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
600* ------------------------------------------------------ 2850 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
800* ------------------------------------------------------ 5430 Btu's / Sq.Ft.
1200* ----------------------------------------------------- 9370 Btu's / Sq.Ft.

I am estimating 3000 Btus/sq ft. Now using my $4 Walmart calculator - hmmmmm . Could it be that I have found a stove that actually puts out close to what it claims i.e. 110K with great efficiency and ability to get the heat outta there. I'm pretty happy right now. This stove coupled with the Hitzer 50-93 in the front of the house (another monster - yyyyeeeessss) - love that coal. OK mother nature, let's see what you got.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:40 pm

It surely exceeded just about every expectation we had when testing. Not bad for being designed on a napkin at 2am after lots of :shots:. :wine:
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:59 pm

I have doodled on a napkin late at night many times in my life. When I looked at them the next day I decided most were pornographic and none were useful.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:59 pm

If your math is correct, that is a lot of surface area. What kind of stack temperature do you observe under full fire?
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:21 pm

I have a powervent system and just before the baro about 140* the Dwyer shows 0.02". At present the fire is 575* over the fire door measured with my el cheapo rotary. I have no idea if my 30 sq ft is correct as it is tough for me to measure the surface area accurately on 18 bent cylinders. That's why I asked for help from Berwick. Dave is going to work it out on a Napkin at 2AM before he staggers on home. :D :D HAHAHAAHHAHA, I slay myself.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:40 pm

Hey, self-slayer! :P :D :lol: Was wondering how far away from the boiler's exit that temp was measured at?
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:53 pm

I think 26 square feet is the correct surface area for the Anthraking 110.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:04 pm

EarthWindandFire wrote:I think 26 square feet is the correct surface area for the Anthraking 110.



Coal newbie has one of the early ones he has 2 more tubes. it is a little over 29sq ft on his. The new ones are 26 sq ft. We took out the 2 front tubes and staggered them after the first run. It just makes it easier to clean. and the front 2 would not get much heat anyway.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:54 am

FOR SALE

One AnthraKing 110K, of the very very few that were ever produced with 29 sq ft of tubing, a true collectors item. There is even an original napkin that was found still soaked in beer in the air intake system a Smithsonian item. $20,000 firm... It even comes with a bucket of coal that I promise came off the Titanic. hahahahahahahah, oh God, I am a riot. Slaying again, I will break a rib.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:41 pm

Just for you CoalNewbie.

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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:12 pm

@ Flyer5: Without divulging company secrets, can you say sales of coal appliance are down, stagnant, up or way up these days? It would seem that anyone stuck with using fuel oil, propane or electric heat and know which end of a hammer to use would be switching to coal, in some capacity at least.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:37 pm

Carbon12 wrote:@ Flyer5: Without divulging company secrets, can you say sales of coal appliance are down, stagnant, up or way up these days? It would seem that anyone stuck with using fuel oil, propane or electric heat and know which end of a hammer to use would be switching to coal, in some capacity at least.



Boilers and furnaces are up. Stoves are eh! Flat the same pretty much. Overall we are solid anyway. Better than some companies over the last yr. After last yrs election retail really suffered in all areas it seems. People have the misconception that coal is dirty and wood is cleaner.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:38 pm

Thanks for the info Flyer5! I hope you and all the manufactures do well! The reality of coal is most people will not be bothered with what's necessary to utilize the heat source,.....until they have no choice, that is. WHEN fuel oil hits $5.00/gallon, no one will be able to afford to heat a McMansion.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:57 am

I don't have a Mc anything, it's just an oversized c rappy Victorian leak box and the last time I checked HO was not so far off from $5.00. 40% still think Obummer is OK as they were told in their youth that liberalism is good and so we wander on. Dave, did I win those stoves in some sort of contest or are you just trying to tease me.
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Re: Idle musings on an AnthraKing 110K stoker

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:18 am

If things continue as in the previous few years, you would be an idiot to not consider an alternative fuel. Propane is not cost effective unless you own your own tank, and many times that is impossible. So you are a victim of the Company Store. NG is great for those who have it, however there is absolutely no other fuel that warms as completely as coal...afford ably. That quarter of a million you spend making the cabin energy efficient has a looooog payback, and lets face it, when we are gone, some city slicker will come tear it down and build something they like anyway. The poor animals in the woods must be asking if there is any intelligent life left on the planet........ The LL products do perform very well, are affordable, and are available. Reach down, check to see that you are the gender you think you are and make a decision. Ask toooooooooooooooooooooo many questions, and I'll be asking if you are the correct gender. Lead, follow, or just plain get out of the way. The next step has been seen, acted upon, so why wait. Grab that BTU producer and enjoy life for a change. The proof could be sitting in your basement or living room. :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
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